You assert I have advocated not getting vaccinated unless you’ve already had covid. That is not true and I would appreciate you retracting that assertion.
JWK
JWK
who in this thread has advocated not getting vaccinated unless you’ve already had covid? I don’t see it.
Why does this thread matter?
https://community.hannity.com/t/new-covid-cases-are-surging-in-highly-vaccinated-vermont
You assert I have advocated not getting vaccinated unless you’ve already had covid. That is not true and I would appreciate you retracting that assertion.
JWK
You assert I was referring to you in any of the linked threads. That is not true and I would appreciate you retracting that assertion.
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johnwk2:who in this thread has advocated not getting vaccinated unless you’ve already had covid? I don’t see it.
Why does this thread matter?
https://community.hannity.com/t/new-covid-cases-are-surging-in-highly-vaccinated-vermont
You assert I have advocated not getting vaccinated unless you’ve already had covid. That is not true and I would appreciate you retracting that assertion.
JWK
You assert I was referring to you in any of the linked threads. That is not true and I would appreciate you retracting that assertion.
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Why then did you provide links to my threads, with respect to the assertion?
JWK
johnwk2:who in this thread has advocated not getting vaccinated unless you’ve already had covid? I don’t see it.
Why does this thread matter?
https://community.hannity.com/t/new-covid-cases-are-surging-in-highly-vaccinated-vermont
You assert I have advocated not getting vaccinated unless you’ve already had covid. That is not true and I would appreciate you retracting that assertion.
JWK
You assert I was referring to you in any of the linked threads. That is not true and I would appreciate you retracting that assertion.
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Why then did you provide links to my threads, with respect to the assertion?
JWK
The content of the linked thread.
Yes, John, you nailed it. The natural immunity is way better than the immunity from the vaccine. Not that anybody would deliberately get covid, of course!! I would rather take the chances of getting covid, get treated quickly and aggressively, which I KNOW would happen in my case, and recover with natural immunity than take the vaccines which have high adverse reactions and are losing efficacy now anyway, requiring who-knows-how-many boosters. I am particularly concerned about long term effects of the vaccines that may show up in 3-5 years. Meanwhile, I am taking preventative regimen and keeping myself healthy. I am careful around others and distance in the public arena when we leave our property, which is in the country.
Everyone must make these choices for themselves.
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johnwk2:who in this thread has advocated not getting vaccinated unless you’ve already had covid? I don’t see it.
Why does this thread matter?
https://community.hannity.com/t/new-covid-cases-are-surging-in-highly-vaccinated-vermont
You assert I have advocated not getting vaccinated unless you’ve already had covid. That is not true and I would appreciate you retracting that assertion.
JWK
You assert I was referring to you in any of the linked threads. That is not true and I would appreciate you retracting that assertion.
Insert random image.
Why then did you provide links to my threads, with respect to the assertion?
JWK
The content of the linked thread.
Yes, John, you nailed it. The natural immunity is way better than the immunity from the vaccine. Not that anybody would deliberately get covid, of course!! I would rather take the chances of getting covid, get treated quickly and aggressively, which I KNOW would happen in my case, and recover with natural immunity than take the vaccines which have high adverse reactions and are losing efficacy now anyway, requiring who-knows-how-many boosters. I am particularly concerned about long term effects of the vaccines that may show up in 3-5 years. Meanwhile, I am taking preventative regimen and keeping myself healthy. I am careful around others and distance in the public arena when we leave our property, which is in the country.
Everyone must make these choices for themselves.
Did you miss that part of what you quoted which states the following?: Everyone must make these choices for themselves.
Additionally, I have repeatedly stated the choice should be made by one’s doctor and their patient. I never advocated not getting the vaccine, e.g.:
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The decision to get the vaccine ought to be between the individual and their doctor.
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As I have repeatedly stated, only a doctor and their patient are in a position to decide whether or not the use of the covid vaccine is beneficial.
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
Nope. Question was who has advocated not getting vaccinated. That was in context of people who would rather be treated for COVID than prevent it. That poster advocated exactly that. For himself.
“For himself”. Exactly!
So, what exactly was your point?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
“For himself”. Exactly!
So, what exactly was your point?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
Someone on here advocated getting COVID over the vaccine.
johnwk2:“For himself”. Exactly!
So, what exactly was your point?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.Someone on here advocated getting COVID over the vaccine.
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
johnwk2:“For himself”. Exactly!
So, what exactly was your point?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.Someone on here advocated getting COVID over the vaccine.
Advocated? Or did the poster express their personal choice?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
Self-advoate. Self-advocacy. These may be new terms to some. Or some would rather question the definition of a simple word than concede someone would prefer to get COVID over vaccinated. Even though they expressly state so.
Whatever. No amount of italics, bold, large font sizes or emojis will change that. It won’t make me care either.
perhaps you should read them again, everything in them references those who have already had covid not needing a vaccine. not that the unvaccinated who have not had covid shouldn’t.
johnwk2:“For himself”. Exactly!
So, what exactly was your point?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.Someone on here advocated getting COVID over the vaccine.
Advocated? Or did the poster express their personal choice?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
Self-advoate. Self-advocacy. These may be new terms to some. Or some would rather question the definition of a simple word than concede someone would prefer to get COVID over vaccinated. Even though they expressly state so.
Whatever. No amount of italics, bold, large font sizes or emojis will change that. It won’t make me care either.
Well, isn’t that special? Originally it was “advocated”, now it’s “self-advocate”. You really are the inventive one. Aren’t you?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
johnwk2:“For himself”. Exactly!
So, what exactly was your point?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.Someone on here advocated getting COVID over the vaccine.
Advocated? Or did the poster express their personal choice?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
Self-advoate. Self-advocacy. These may be new terms to some. Or some would rather question the definition of a simple word than concede someone would prefer to get COVID over vaccinated. Even though they expressly state so.
Whatever. No amount of italics, bold, large font sizes or emojis will change that. It won’t make me care either.
Well, isn’t that special? Originally it was “advocated”, now it’s “self-advocate”. You really are the inventive one. Aren’t you?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
As predicted. Not very inventive.
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Not very inventive.
Yup! “Self-advocate” is beyond inventive . . .
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
SottoVoce:Not very inventive.
Yup! “Self-advocate” is beyond inventive . . .
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.
Luckily even if people don’t own a dictionary, definitions are freely available on the internet.
Advocate:
a person who argues for or supports a cause or policy
Yes, John, you nailed it. The natural immunity is way better than the immunity from the vaccine. Not that anybody would deliberately get covid, of course!! I would rather take the chances of getting covid, get treated quickly and aggressively, which I KNOW would happen in my case, and recover with natural immunity than take the vaccines which have high adverse reactions and are losing efficacy now anyway, requiring who-knows-how-many boosters. I am particularly concerned about long term effects of the vaccines that may show up in 3-5 years. Meanwhile, I am taking preventative regimen and keeping myself healthy. I am careful around others and distance in the public arena when we leave our property, which is in the country.
Everyone must make these choices for themselves.
How is getting the vaccine and suffering a bad reaction safer than being infected with the virus, beating it with no ill effects, and acquiring a lasting natural immunity
John, this is what I was responding to (I am obviously not very adept at these things—must be an “old person” issue)
If they were treated appropriately they would not need hospitalization, or at least it would be a VERY small percentage.
Trump’s position on the vaccines has absolutely nothing to do with mine. We have decided to avoid them based on a lot of things, including the many adverse reactions, lack of long term trials and availability of good, aggressive treatment if we do get covid. We are in the fortunate position to be able to obtain meds and treat ourselves quickly . We have also been on a preventative regimen for months now. Everyone should be able to make this decision for themselves and to do good research beforehand. We have done that and are keeping up to date.
There are 63 studies on ivermectin and a couple of meta analyses. Ivermectin has been used for years all over the world. In 2015 two ivermectin researchers received the Nobel prize in Medicine for ivermectin work. It is on the WHO list of world’s most essential medicines. The vaccines, on the other hand, are different than any other vaccine ever used in the world. Studies have not been completed on them, especially in children and pregnant women. There’s over 14,000 deaths in the US and hundreds of thousands of adverse reactions. Including myocarditis, guillain-barre, blood clots , stroke, and other neurological problems. Many more deaths and adverse reactions than all other vaccines combined, the most in history. And instead of treating covid appropriately, people have been sent home and told to take tylenol and drink fluids and to return if they get sicker. Early treatment with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin (and other things that go along with the protocol) could have saved many lives. New information from Israel shows people are MUCH more likely to die of the Delta variant after the vaccine. Should we just keep vaccinating people and giving them boosters when the efficacy of vaccines is going down all the time?? Recent data from countries all over the world are showing highest cases in the most vaccinated countries. In the UK, 54% of recorded Delta deaths were in vaccinated people.
I have one question: How are they being treated? If they are being treated appropriately, few if any should die. Mostly if they have preexisting conditions, such as leukemia. Young children can take both ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.
I am not a covid denier. I am a covid treater.
The video above is long but worth every second of your time.
They never say how they are treating covid patients. If they gave the protocol of ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, zinc, vitamins C and D, quercetin, with steroids and antibiotics as needed, most wouldn’t need to be hospitalized or only briefly and outcomes would be much better.
True or false, @vksintx repeatedly argues against vaccination and in favor of treatment. He advocates against vaccination in favor of treatment.
Sure, you’ll disagree, throw in some stock photo, clip art, or emoji. Thankfully pictures of rolling eyes and facepalms don’t change reality or make a point. The words of the poster do.