Time to consider socialism with the failure of capitalism greed

[Eagle-Keeper]

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@Eagle-Keeper

@conan

If goverment didn’t back up those loans bankers wouldn’t be making em…high risk.
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Make the school pay the loan if the person doesn’t get a good paying job. That would dramatically change the system.

Bet the schools would eliminate certain degrees if that were the case.

Which would be a good thing.

[WildRose]

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

[mobulis]

@WildRose

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

And more did not.

[WildRose]

The facts show us otherwise. Most immigrants arriving in the US arrived with virtually nothing other than a work ethic.

The vast majority of them worked their way out of it.

[Toll_Collector]

@NJBob

I spend well over $500 a month just to commute to work.

Wow that is a lot. I spend maybe 100.

[WuWei]

The European system of "free college" isn't what many here thinks it is

And the current crop of ideas like Bernie’s would likely end up being very similar once they started looking at the numbers. Another unrealistic campaign promise from another political candidate, it’s par for the course. Trump did it, Obama did it, Bush did it, Clinton did it and right on down the line.

Good clarification.

[FloridaYankee]

@WildRose

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

It may have sounded like I was supporting the taxing of wealth which I am not just to get that out of the way. The truth is that most people find their way out of poverty, at least to some extent, it is a revolving door of sorts. That doesn’t mean we don’t need jobs training programs and such to help them along, there are a helluva lot of people that were never taught a damn thing in life that could do better with a little knowledge.

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@WildRose

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

It may have sounded like I was supporting the taxing of wealth which I am not just to get that out of the way. The truth is that most people find their way out of poverty, at least to some extent, it is a revolving door of sorts. That doesn’t mean we don’t need jobs training programs and such to help them along, there are a helluva lot of people that were never taught a damn thing in life that could do better with a little knowledge.

Good post.

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WildRose

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

It may have sounded like I was supporting the taxing of wealth which I am not just to get that out of the way. The truth is that most people find their way out of poverty, at least to some extent, it is a revolving door of sorts. That doesn’t mean we don’t need jobs training programs and such to help them along, there are a helluva lot of people that were never taught a damn thing in life that could do better with a little knowledge.

Good post.

Thank you.

[Smyrna]

@mobulis

And more did not.

Yes…the broken policies of Democrats have ruined some major cities…good point.

[WuWei]

@mobulis

And more did not.

Not true.

[mobulis]

@Smyrna

@mobulis

And more did not.

Yes…the broken policies of Democrats have ruined some major cities…good point.

Nope, sorry.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@WildRose

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

For sure. Poor people are lazy and don’t work hard. Amirite

[WuWei]

@ImRightYoureWrong

@WildRose

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

For sure. Poor people are lazy and don’t work hard. Amirite

No. Lazy people who don’t want to work hard are “poor”.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@WuWei

No. Lazy people who don’t want to work hard are “poor”.

That doesn’t make poor people lazy or not hard workers. But do carry on

[WuWei]

@ImRightYoureWrong

@WuWei

No. Lazy people who don’t want to work hard are “poor”.

That doesn’t make poor people lazy or not hard workers. But do carry on

Never said it did. It does make lazy people poor. Which one do you think there are more of?

[NJBob]

@Toll_Collector

@NJBob

I spend well over $500 a month just to commute to work.

Wow that is a lot. I spend maybe 100.

Yup, between parking, monthly NJT train pass and the subway from NYP to my office it adds up to over $500.

[Oldandtired]

But I am willing to bet that a lot of gen xers eat and that they would be crying about the price of food if the government wouldn’t have fixed it years ago to keep farmers barely making any money so they could keep food prices cheap.
I in fact would still be farming if the government had kept their noses out of farming and let demand set the quantity and price.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@WildRose

@WildRose

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

For sure. Poor people are lazy and don’t work hard. Amirite

Some are, absolutely, but from my experience most I know have made poor choices.

[Oldandtired]

Just like for the boomers there is still a GI bill.
And just like than you have to actually serve to participate.