This is how you handle fascist goons and bullies

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

That is what someone involved in ANTIFA would say.

It’s also something someone who isn’t involved in Antifa would say.

[Samm]

If you were to ask the Las Vegas odds makers, the smart money would be on me.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

If you were to ask the Las Vegas odds makers, the smart money would be on me.

I’m literally someone not involved in Antifa saying it.

[Bill.in.PA]

The left is the source of most of the hate crimes in the country. Many of them are fakes that they then blame on their political opponents.

Here’s A List Of Hoax ‘Hate Crimes’ In The Trump Era

Biden blames Trump for anti-Asian violence

“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.” Biden seems to be accusing Trump of encouraging violent attacks by his supporters. Anti-Asian violence certainly is occurring…

Is there a growing problem of anti-Semitism from the left?

Is anti-Semitism only a problem with neo-Nazis on the extreme right? Or is it becoming mainstream in the Democratic Party and other institutions on the left as well? There are disturbing reports that bastions of liberalism are having increasing problems anti-Semitism. For example, consider this report about anti-Semitism on college campuses: As reported by Newsweek , more than a dozen Jewish student events were violently disrupted this year at schools coast to coast, including Boston Universi…

[fallenturtle]

@Bill.in.PA

Biden blames Trump for anti-Asian violence

What’s your point?

[WuWei]

That’s a horrible definition.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

If you were to ask the Las Vegas odds makers, the smart money would be on me.

I’m literally someone not involved in Antifa saying it.

I never said you were. First I asked if you were, and did not get a answer, and then I said that what you posted was what someone involved in ANTIFA would say. Your argument is losing steam …

[fallenturtle]

@WuWei

That’s a horrible definition.

Take it up with Merriam-Webster.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

If you were to ask the Las Vegas odds makers, the smart money would be on me.

I’m literally someone not involved in Antifa saying it.

I never said you were. First I asked if you were, and did not get a answer, and then I said that what you posted was what someone involved in ANTIFA would say. Your argument is losing steam …

You implied it.

Which less-steamy argument are you referring to? There are a handful happening here.

[Samm]

All of them.

[Bill.in.PA]

One side wants to get rid of Jews, racial/ethic minorities, and GLBT people… the other side wants to punch people who want to get rid of Jews, racial/ethic minorities, and GLBT people.

The reality is that one side is falsely claiming that their political opponents are uniquely evil and responsible for all sorts of vile hate crimes. The reality is that two-thirds of hate crimes are false flags / hoaxes. In addition a large fraction of the hate crimes are coming from people of color, but white supremacists get the blame in the media. This is disinformation on a massive level.

Opinion | Hate Crime Hoaxes Are More Common Than You Think

[gooddad409]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@gooddad409

@altair1013

@fallenturtle

The only thing Antifa has in common with fascists is they both like to beat people up.

Why do they like to beat people up? Be honest and answer that question and you will know why they are fascists. Ever heard of Hitler’s brown shirts? Same tactics as Antifa. Except Antifa is afraid to take their ■■■■ into conservative areas.

They are. They obviously felt safe attacking that group in LA.

You could test the theory and send them a tip on any fascist gatherings you know of in conservative areas, then see if they show up.

What fascist gatherings are you referring to? When and where has any such gathering occurred in the last 10-20 years?

The fascist gathering would be any and all ANTIFA get togethers.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

All of them.

I see, so your usual hollow ■■■■ talking.

[EternalVigilance]

@fallenturtle

Why do you assume Antifa threw the first punch or push? Do you have video from the beginning of the fighting?

Why was Antifa even at an anti-mask rally in the first place? Doesn’t exactly fit the theme of an anarchist group.

[fallenturtle]

@Bill.in.PA

One side wants to get rid of Jews, racial/ethic minorities, and GLBT people… the other side wants to punch people who want to get rid of Jews, racial/ethic minorities, and GLBT people.

The reality is that one side is falsely claiming that their political opponents are uniquely evil and responsible for all sorts of vile hate crimes. The reality is that two-thirds of hate crimes are false flags / hoaxes. In addition a large fraction of the hate crimes are coming from people of color, but white supremacists get the blame in the media. This is disinformation on a massive level.

Hate Crime Hoaxes Are More Common Than You Think - WSJ

Good call changing from that Daily Article opinion piece to the WSJ opinion piece since it at least has some data, I think… it also is behind a pay wall so I don’t know what the 346 allegations its referring to, but there are thousands every year…

In 2019, race was reported for 6,406 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:

52.5 percent were White.
23.9 percent were Black or African American.
6.6 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (group of multiple races).
1.1 percent were American Indian or Alaska Native.
0.9 percent (58 offenders) were Asian.
0.3 percent (22 offenders) were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.
14.6 percent were unknown.

I don’t disagree, 23.9% is a large fraction of the hate crimes… not as large as 52.5% though.

Facts and Statistics

[WuWei]

@fallenturtle

23.9% is a large fraction of the hate crimes… not as large as 52.5% though.

Look at the population.

[EternalVigilance]

@WuWei

Look at the population.

No per capita scale really skews those numbers.

[PAmoderate37]

@fallenturtle

One side wants to get rid of Jews, racial/ethic minorities, and GLBT people… the other side wants to punch people who want to get rid of Jews, racial/ethic minorities, and GLBT people.

As a Democrat I’ll never understand the support for ANTIFA. You defeat hateful speech with better speech, not violence! I’d love to see them rounded up and exposed.

[WuWei]

@EternalVigilance

@WuWei

Look at the population.

No per capita scale really skews those numbers.

I don’t know what that means.

[EternalVigilance]

@WuWei

I don’t know what that means.

It’s an affirmation of your point - what’s the percentage of offenders per national population demographic for each one of those groups?