You have got to be kidding!
Are you one of them?
You have got to be kidding!
Are you one of them?
fallenturtle:There is no connection between the DNC and Antifa. Why do you think anarchists can’t beat people?
Sure there is. The Democrats give them tacit approval, particularly at the local level.
Your opinion is noted.
fallenturtle: Bill.in.PA:The FBI has done an incredibly bad job of controlling violence and prosecuting Antifa terrorism.
Either it is in bed with Antifa, or it is incredibly incompetent. Either way the FBI should be defunded immediately.
There is no national Antifa, its a bunch of independent local groups, so wouldn’t that be more of a local/state law enforcement situation than the jurisdiction of the FBI?
You are sounding like Bagdad Bob.
Again, your opinion is noted.
fallenturtle: altair1013: fallenturtle:So now anyone who likes to beat up people is a fascist now?
No. You’re overthinking this. Take a deep breath and settle down. I’ll explain it for you. (And you still won’t get it).
If a group dons combat gear and does unprovoked beatings of people with the intent of shutting down their voices then yes, they are fascists. Are you catching on yet? Answer: Nope.
How do you know it was unprovoked?
When did fascism stop meaning: " a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"
You have got to be kidding!
Are you one of them?
Do you have proof that Antifa threw the first punch?
gooddad409: altair1013: fallenturtle:The only thing Antifa has in common with fascists is they both like to beat people up.
Why do they like to beat people up? Be honest and answer that question and you will know why they are fascists. Ever heard of Hitler’s brown shirts? Same tactics as Antifa. Except Antifa is afraid to take their ■■■■ into conservative areas.
They are. They obviously felt safe attacking that group in LA.
You could test the theory and send them a tip on any fascist gatherings you know of in conservative areas, then see if they show up.
What fascist gatherings are you referring to? When and where has any such gathering occurred in the last 10-20 years?
Samm: fallenturtle: Samm:Technique belies intentions.
So now anyone who likes to beat up people is a fascist now?
Don’t be silly.
Thinking Antifa is fascist is silly.
I didn’t say they were. I said their tactics are.
Samm: fallenturtle:There is no connection between the DNC and Antifa. Why do you think anarchists can’t beat people?
Sure there is. The Democrats give them tacit approval, particularly at the local level.
Your opinion is noted.
That’s what we are here for.
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Samm: fallenturtle: Bill.in.PA:The FBI has done an incredibly bad job of controlling violence and prosecuting Antifa terrorism.
Either it is in bed with Antifa, or it is incredibly incompetent. Either way the FBI should be defunded immediately.
There is no national Antifa, its a bunch of independent local groups, so wouldn’t that be more of a local/state law enforcement situation than the jurisdiction of the FBI?
You are sounding like Bagdad Bob.
Again, your opinion is noted.
You are welcome.
Yes, and the neo-Nazi leader from the rally endorsed slave-state Joe for president.
Yes, and the neo-Nazi leader from the rally endorsed slave-state Joe for president.
He says as if that proves something.
Neo-nazis, Neo-confederates, White Nationalists, Klansmen and right-wing militias are not Fascists and Neo-Fascists are a myth. In fact, the term is somewhat oxymoronic. The closest thing we have to Neo-fascist in this country is ANTIFA.
fallenturtle:Neo-nazis, Neo-confederates, White Nationalists, Klansmen and right-wing militias are not Fascists and Neo-Fascists are a myth. In fact, the term is somewhat oxymoronic. The closest thing we have to Neo-fascist in this country is ANTIFA.
Please explain how the largely anti-racist anarchist group is more fascist then white nationalists and other racists.
When did fascism stop meaning: " a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"
Democrats have returned to being the party of racial segregation and racial discrimination. The difference from the Democrats from 60 year ago is that they believe implementing the policies to protect people of color from evil white people instead of the other way around.
How do you know it was unprovoked?
It wasn’t unprovoked. Antifa is the victim of conservative bullies. Just a bunch of misunderstood peaceful protestors.
In order to have an intelligent conversation you must we willing to try. You’re not trying. I don’t have time for this kind of malarkey.
Samm: fallenturtle:Neo-nazis, Neo-confederates, White Nationalists, Klansmen and right-wing militias are not Fascists and Neo-Fascists are a myth. In fact, the term is somewhat oxymoronic. The closest thing we have to Neo-fascist in this country is ANTIFA.
Please explain how the largely anti-racist anarchist group is more fascist then white nationalists and other racists.
When did fascism stop meaning: " a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"
The answer you seek is in the definition, or rather, what is not in the definition. Compare what ANTIFA seeks to accomplish with the motives of the racist groups.
Democrats have returned to being the party of racial segregation and racial discrimination.
No they haven’t.
fallenturtle:How do you know it was unprovoked?
It wasn’t unprovoked. Antifa is the victim of conservative bullies. Just a bunch of misunderstood peaceful protestors.
In order to have an intelligent conversation you must we willing to try. You’re not trying. I don’t have time for this kind of malarkey.
Why do you assume Antifa threw the first punch or push? Do you have video from the beginning of the fighting?
In order to have an intelligent conversation you must we willing to try.
Then why aren’t you trying?
fallenturtle: Samm: fallenturtle:Neo-nazis, Neo-confederates, White Nationalists, Klansmen and right-wing militias are not Fascists and Neo-Fascists are a myth. In fact, the term is somewhat oxymoronic. The closest thing we have to Neo-fascist in this country is ANTIFA.
Please explain how the largely anti-racist anarchist group is more fascist then white nationalists and other racists.
When did fascism stop meaning: " a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"
The answer you seek is in the definition, or rather, what is not in the definition. Compare what ANTIFA seeks to accomplish with the motives of the racist groups.
One side wants to get rid of Jews, racial/ethic minorities, and GLBT people… the other side wants to punch people who want to get rid of Jews, racial/ethic minorities, and GLBT people.
That is what someone involved in ANTIFA would say.