I think the dems conspired with Ukraine to damage Trump. Wait that was 2016 and 2019. HMMMM
DOJ: If Watergate Happened Today, Weâd Block Evidence From Congress
The DOJ took a position in court today that literally made the judge say, "Wow, OK."
I think the dems conspired with Ukraine to damage Trump. Wait that was 2016 and 2019. HMMMM
What judges have called her a âwhistleblowerâ?
Trump and his team filed a motion in a case in New York that literally says the opposite. They claim âAbsolute Immunityâ. They claim the laws donât apply to Trump.
Are you able to count the number of times you have had to explain that to a member of this forum.
It seems like there are certain members here that continue to post that false story over and over again even after they have been shown evidence that the statement is false.
Itâs even worse than that. The DoJ is fighting to prevent the full Mueller report (non-redacted) from being given to Congress. They admit that if Watergate were to have happened today, they would not give Congress the Watergate evidence (the so-called âWatergate road mapâ) it did in the 70s. If that doesnât make your skin crawl. I donât know what would.
After lengthy and critical questioning of both sides, Howell finally got down to the nub of the issue. She asked DOJ attorney Elizabeth Shapiro if the government believes Siricaâs ruling to release the Watergate evidence was âwrongly decided.â
âIf that case came today a different result would be obtained,â Shapiro responded. âIf that same situation would be presented today, we would not be able to do the same thing.â
âWow, OK,â Howell responded in apparent astonishment. âAs I said, the department is taking extraordinary positions in this case.â
There are a lot of alarmist posts on here, but this new approach by the DoJ is gut wrenching.
The DOJ took a position in court today that literally made the judge say, "Wow, OK."
WildRose:She was a whislteblower who was targeted by the administration for personal destruction for blowing the whistle.
Was she a âwhistleblowerâ?
Apparently the definition of âwhistleblowerâ is once again a topic of discussion on this board, and Iâve seen a lot of people claiming that the current whistleblowers are not really whistleblowers, because they donât fit the statutory definitions.
Did Tripp meet those statutory definitions? Link?
As much as the current âwhistleblowerâ. I am sure you have heard the argumentâŚIs Trump part of the IC community subject to the IC IG?
However, if Republicans arenât fighting this in court, I see no reason to make an issue of it.
As much as the current âwhistleblowerâ. I am sure you have heard the argumentâŚIs Trump part of the IC community subject to the IC IG?
Thatâs a question for the Court. He is undeniably at the top of the IC organizational pyramid.
On the other hand, Trippâs situation is fairly cut-and-dried.
Rules were changed that allowed whistleblower complaints based on second-hand information:
https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/01/intel-community-admission-of-whistleblower-changes-raises-explosive-new-questions/
That is incorrect. Link
NeatâŚits hearsayâŚthere is nothing you can do about itâŚ
Who knows more about law? Actual federal prosecutors or you?
Guess who Iâm going with?
So you dont have one.
Can I put this here until I need it please?
Fox News contributor John Solomon claimed a new document he obtained showed Ukrainian officials opened a new probe into the firm linked to Hunter Biden months before President Trump's phone call with that country's leader.
Lolz. Yeah sure thing
It doesnât matter if he is the official recorder. Hearsay is any out of court statement. What the stenographer says is hearsay.
Can I put this here until I need it please?
Document reveals Ukraine had already reopened probe of Hunter Biden-linkedâŚ
Fox News contributor John Solomon claimed a new document he obtained showed Ukrainian officials opened a new probe into the firm linked to Hunter Biden months before President Trumpâs phone call with that countryâs leader.
Letâs say this is 100% true (doubtful), how does that affect the abuse of power of the president?
Can I put this here until I need it please?
Doesnât change the fact that the POTUS asked a foreign government to investigate a political rival.
Can I put this here until I need it please?
You should probably look up Solomonâs record on Comeys imminent indictment before you pin your hopes on him.
Letâs start with the obvious:
- Rules were changed that allowed whistleblower complaints based on second-hand information:
https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/01/intel-community-admission-of-whistleblower-changes-raises-explosive-new-questions/
#FakeNews. You were lied to about this. We had a long thread about it:
Before the change a whistle blower had to give a first hand account. Now the rules allow a person passing on rumors to get whistleblower status. âno longer requires potential whistleblowers who wish to have their concerns expedited to Congress to have direct, first-hand knowledge of the alleged wrongdoing that they are reporting.â "The brand new version of the whistleblower complaint form, which was not made public until after the transcript of Trumpâs July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian prâŚ
and the ICIG came right out and debunked this lie.
The Democrats very quickly moved to start an impeachment inquiry even before any real investigation, and Schiff may have had the complaint before it was filed:
Adam Schiff knew of complaint before whistleblower filed it | Washington Examiner
Impeachment inquiry IS the investigation. Why does this need to be explained? Do we need to explain exactly what âimpeachmentâ is again?
The two whistleblowers appear to have political biases against Trump:
Former CIA officer questions whether second whistleblower also has political bias | Fox News
No, they donât. Your article is titled: âFormer CIA officer questions whether second whistleblower also has political bias.â
A guy not even in intelligence any longer made a guess about something he canât possibly know.
Pretty desperate talking points.
The entire narrative has smelled fishy from the wide eyed Pelosi announcement forward.
One would expect the charges to have solid probable cause and evidence to move forward.
Instead it is more fishing for cause and outrageous innuendo with no connection to any charge.
ADDITIONALLYâŚthe conduct of Hunter Biden and most likely VP Joe Biden is heavy with evidence of corruption and payoff.
The D are genuinely off their rockers.
This is why a VOTE in Congress is needed.
The disparity on the ownership of TRUTH is rather considerable.
No we donât need a vote. If Trump has nothing to hide and the call was perfect then they should not have any problem letting officials testify and releasing any documentation requested on the matter so that we can clear him as quickly as possible. Donât you agree?