The second hyperlink “fragments” links to this preprint paper.
It also says nothing of the sort. In fact, it also says nothing about “cells mostly break down the spike protein into fragments” which your article claims it did. The researchers in that article broke up the collected spike protein in vitro to assess for mutations in collected samples. I’m not sure if that’s where their confusion came from.
The spike protein from SARS-CoV-2 does not “assemble into new viral particles.”
The “modifications” used in both the mRNA-1273 and BNT162b2 were to prevent their degradation once they arrive in cells. They both encode for the at the time wild type spike protein.
So again…the vaccine did not alter the spike protein or remove the ACE2 receptor component. Both mRNA vaccines encode the entire spike protein, including the RBD which binds to hACE2. You can check RBD specific titers after vaccination.
Fortuitously, Graham and a former postdoc, Jason McLellan, devised a solution to this problem before the pandemic. Through a bit of structural biology and persistent protein engineering, McLellan discovered that adding two prolines—the most rigid of the 20 amino acids—to a key joint of a vaccine’s spike protein could stabilize the structure’s prefusion shape. This 2P mutation worked in preclinical studies of Graham and Moderna’s MERS vaccine, so they applied it to Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine.
As Norbert Pardi, an mRNA vaccine scientist at the University of Pennsylvania, puts it, we’re “very lucky, actually,” that scientists worked out the 2P mutation for a MERS vaccine before the COVID-19 pandemic. “It wouldn’t be possible to go so fast with the Moderna vaccine otherwise.”
The entire spike protein is encoded in both vaccines, which includes the RBD. The alteration is part of a non-translated segment so that the vaccine mRNA doesn’t fold upon itself or cleave within the cell, therefore degrading it. The translated vaccine spike protein is the same as the wild type spike protein.
So, you have no documentation that it is safer for those who are healthy individuals between 10 and 30 years of age, to get the vaccine, than to not get the jab.
Seems to me, and I could be wrong but I doubt it, there are millions upon millions in the category identified who have gotten the virus, some having not even being aware of getting it, and now have natural immunity which is an important factor in our nation’s population reaching herd immunity. What I find quite suspicious is, little to no attention is given to natural immunity, Mother Nature’s way of dealing with this pandemic. WHY?
Those having natural immunity and are covid free are not spreading the virus, and yet, NYC’s one size fits all __ No Vax, No Service ___ discriminates against this group. NYC’s mandate ignores the science, by actually encouraging the fully vaccinated, who are symptom free but infected and can spread the virus, to go about and enjoy public accommodations and spread the virus, while those who have natural immunity and are virus free, are discriminated against by government and prohibited from going about their daily activities.
"Appearing on Fox News’ “Hannity” to discuss the topic a few weeks ago, Dr. Nicole Saphier called the CDC “myopic.”
“We have ample data showing that natural immunity provides effectiveness against severe disease from SARS-CoV-2,” she said. “In fact, Israel showed that reinfection following prior infection is about seven times less likely than if you are fully vaccinated. So I find it to be very myopic that the CDC continues to discount the protection of natural immunity. They only do it for SARS-CoV-2. They acknowledge natural immunity for measles, chickenpox, and many other viruses, but they are so myopic right now in trying to encourage vaccination that they are truly actually not following the science.”
There is something very, very suspicious taking place when an important factor in dealing with the Covid outbreak is given little to no attention.
JWK
The citizens of the United States paid little attention while their tyrannical federal government gave aid and comfort to hundreds of thousands of foreign nationals invading their country.
So, Jezcoe, instead of actually responding to MY POST and engage in a productive discussion, you choose to employ a stupid debating trick, bait and switch, and present a red herring question.
Well, let me return the favor.
How is getting the vaccine and suffering a bad reaction safer than being infected with the virus, beating it with no ill effects, and acquiring a lasting natural immunity?
In what world is potentially being poisoned by a vaccine better than acquiring natural immunity without any ill effects?
JWK
None dare call the Democrat Party Leadership’s arming of the Taliban, (our enemy), with United States’ military equipment, as TREASON. Why?
The rate of adverse reactions to the vaccine is much much much lower than the rate of of those same reactions to contracting the virus.
Take for instance the risk of Myocarditis
It is safer to get the vaccine than it is to get sick with the virus… plus there is the added benefit of lowering the risk for being a disease vector and passing the virus to someone else.
If we are to use the current Trumpist talking points, it was an experimental treatment that hasn’t even been approved by the FDA.
The reality was that it was in the testing process and at the time, the companies creating it could only produce enough to administer it to one week’s worth of the people that came down with Covid-19, and they had yet to do enough testing to know how effective it was in what circumstance to know how to prioritize dosing.
On the bright side, the Gates Foundation has worked with both of those companies to help them ramp up production.
It wasn’t until August that EU for Regen-Cov was modified as there was updated data from a phase 3 trial and it still isn’t a substitution for vaccination.
Once again you employ a stupid debating trick [bait and switch] rather than actually responding to MY POST and engage in a productive discussion.
We were talking about a specific age group in good health. You have offered absolutely nothing confirming it is safer for those who are healthy individuals between 10 and 30 years of age, to get the vaccine, than to not get the jab.
Why do you persist in such obfuscations and misdirection’s?
Finally, you end your post with an innuendo proving to not be the case. Contrary to your innuendo, we are leaning as each day passes that the vaxxed can, and are, becoming supper spreaders of the virus. And this brings us to NYC’s one size fits all __ No Vax, No Service ___ which discriminates against those with natural immunity.
NYC’s mandate ignores the science, by actually encouraging the fully vaccinated, who are symptom free but infected and can spread the virus, to go about and enjoy public accommodations and spread the virus, while those who have natural immunity and are virus free, are discriminated against by government and prohibited from going about their daily activities.
JWK
Let us never forget. There is now both domestic and foreign blood on the hands of all those who voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.
Yes, John, you nailed it. The natural immunity is way better than the immunity from the vaccine. Not that anybody would deliberately get covid, of course!! I would rather take the chances of getting covid, get treated quickly and aggressively, which I KNOW would happen in my case, and recover with natural immunity than take the vaccines which have high adverse reactions and are losing efficacy now anyway, requiring who-knows-how-many boosters. I am particularly concerned about long term effects of the vaccines that may show up in 3-5 years. Meanwhile, I am taking preventative regimen and keeping myself healthy. I am careful around others and distance in the public arena when we leave our property, which is in the country.
Everyone must make these choices for themselves.
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How is getting the vaccine and suffering a bad reaction safer than being infected with the virus, beating it with no ill effects, and acquiring a lasting natural immunity
John, this is what I was responding to (I am obviously not very adept at these things—must be an “old person” issue)
With every booster the risks are multiplied. And many covid cases are fully vaccinated people now. In Israel from July 4-31, 86.0% of confirmed cases were fully vaccinated people. (Source Israeli government covid-19 dashboard) Iceland recent number is 77% are in the fully vaccinated.
Why should I take the vaccine risk and then get covid anyway?
I am honestly not trying to be argumentative or flippant. These are difficult issues.
