Looks like crime being down was all a lie

[Camp]

The more Dems dig in that crime is better the worse they will lose in November.

[Smyrna]

@Smyrna

Nahhhhh…not me. I’d rather call them stupid if they’re ignorant and a liar if they’re lying.

@FreeAndClear

Another example of “libs are always wriong” because it’s easier to point out when they are wrong than admitting being wrong….

How can so little be so confusing to you?

[DMK]

@conan

That is precisely what we have been posting…but libs still want to gaslight us. Or better put…lie right to our faces.

“There are none so blind as those who will not see”

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

@PurpnGold

@Oldandtired

Crime is up that’s the facts. The fed lied that’s a fact.

Your link does not say crime is up year over year

Third grade math. The article says reporting of crime (to the FBI) is down which results in them (FBI) showing a decease when municipal and State data shows an increase.

Third grade reading comprehension.

The article does not show a rise in unreported crimes. The Oped says this

“Moreover, a rising share of victims are failing to report their victimizations at all. In 2022, only 42% of violent crime victims and 33% of property crime victims bothered to report the crime to police.”

But offers no reference/data to back that up.

[WuWei]

How would you show not reporting?

Do illegals report crimes?

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

How would you show not reporting?

No idea… which is why the anyone saying there is a rise in underreporting deserves scrutiny.

In this case, the oped writer provided no data to back that claim up.

@WuWei

Do illegals report crimes?

True illegals, probably not. But then that’s been the case forever right? So those numbers have been baked in for as long as we’ve been tracking that data.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

In this case, the oped writer provided no data to back that claim up.

What data? Is it not common sense? You have millions from countries with cultures of criminality and ineffective and corrupt policing flooding in.

Where have you ever seen that lead to “cRiMe iS DoWn!”?

[WuWei]

What’s a false illegal?

[FreeAndClear]

@Guvnah

@FreeAndClear

Except no

Not sure what you’re trying to demonstrate with quoting yourself.

Your strawman is just a desperate attempt to say … something, I guess.

I pointed out that i agree that the stats as presented are questionable especially given the Baltimore example. The fact that that went over your head is on you. Somebody somewhere taught you guys words to be used in debate like strawman and gaslight but you never actually understood what those words mean.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

In this case, the oped writer provided no data to back that claim up.

What data? Is it not common sense? You have millions from countries with cultures of criminality and ineffective and corrupt policing flooding in.

Where have you ever seen that lead to “cRiMe iS DoWn!”?

How do you statistically measure “common sense”?

illegals mostly don’t report crimes against them. They may or may not anonymously report crimes against others or others property.

But can’t we assume that that reality is already reflected in any crime data we collect? Which means that issue has been baked into the data since the beginning of collecting it.

[FreeAndClear]

@conan

@FreeAndClear

Accept that both things are true - yes crime is going down and no we don’t have a complete picture to say so decisively

So you’re going off of faith? Or a feeling?

Anecdotes

Should the word "riot" be considered hate speech?

Because she was killed by black cop. Black on black or white on white crimes rarely gets reported because it doesn’t fit anyone narrative. At least that’s based on my observation.

It’s all based on feelings primarily.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

What’s a false illegal?

Asylum seeker

[Guvnah]

@WuWei

How would you show not reporting?

The article points this out:

"Nashville’s own data tallied more than 6,900 aggravated assaults in 2023, but the FBI counted only 5,941, leaving almost 1,000 of those offenses “missing.” This trend is consistent across the board: While 2022’s FBI city-level figures track the police’s own data, the 2023 numbers consistently undercount offense totals. Any year-to-year comparison overstates decline. "

And this:

"The federal government’s own victims’ survey, which attempts to capture the gap between the number of actual offenses and the number reported to police, shows much higher offense rates than the FBI does. Moreover, a rising share of victims are failing to report their victimizations at all. In 2022, only 42% of violent crime victims and 33% of property crime victims bothered to report the crime to police.

That underreporting reduces the reliability of FBI numbers in measuring actual offense levels. For example, robbery offenses, which constitute roughly 25% of all violent crime by volume compared to 5% for murder, declined 18% between 2019 and 2022, according to the FBI, while the victim’s survey suggests a 30% rise. "

When you’re dealing with someone whose only apparent point is to say you are wrong, none of that matters.

[PurpnGold]

@Guvnah

The article points this out:

"Nashville’s own data tallied more than 6,900 aggravated assaults in 2023, but the FBI counted only 5,941, leaving almost 1,000 of those offenses “missing.” This trend is consistent across the board: While 2022’s FBI city-level figures track the police’s own data, the 2023 numbers consistently undercount offense totals. Any year-to-year comparison overstates decline. "

This doesn’t show underreporting by victims. Fail number 1

@Guvnah

"The federal government’s own victims’ survey, which attempts to capture the gap between the number of actual offenses and the number reported to police, shows much higher offense rates than the FBI does. Moreover, a rising share of victims are failing to report their victimizations at all. In 2022, only 42% of violent crime victims and 33% of property crime victims bothered to report the crime to police.

Already quoted this here

@PurpnGold

“Moreover, a rising share of victims are failing to report their victimizations at all. In 2022, only 42% of violent crime victims and 33% of property crime victims bothered to report the crime to police.”

The article provides zero data to backup that claim. And you fell for it too.

Fail number 2

@Guvnah

When you’re dealing with someone whose only apparent point is to say you are wrong, none of that matters.

I wish you would have followed the conversation.

[WuWei]

“Anonymously”?

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

Anecdotes

Are cool now!

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

Anecdotes

Are cool now!

Sarcasm

[Rodeo]

@Guvnah

And this:

"The federal government’s own victims’ survey, which attempts to capture the gap between the number of actual offenses and the number reported to police, shows much higher offense rates than the FBI does. Moreover, a rising share of victims are failing to report their victimizations at all. In 2022, only 42% of violent crime victims and 33% of property crime victims bothered to report the crime to police.

That underreporting reduces the reliability of FBI numbers in measuring actual offense levels. For example, robbery offenses, which constitute roughly 25% of all violent crime by volume compared to 5% for murder, declined 18% between 2019 and 2022, according to the FBI, while the victim’s survey suggests a 30% rise. "

Wait didn’t some idiot leftist say something about “there’s no data?”

That looks likes lotsa data to me!

Libs are a bad comedy show sometimes.

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

Anecdotes

Are cool now!

Sarcasm

Hypocrisy. Not mine.

[Guvnah]

@PurpnGold

This doesn’t show underreporting by victims. Fail number 1

The point is that the FBI numbers are underreported.

This is why I consider your posts stupid. I stopped right there.

Go pester someone else.