conan
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So you were going off of feeling?
I wrote if on purpose.
We feel that crime goes up and we feel that crime goes down based on the media. We try to confirm our feelings using statistics
So itās both.
Donāt worry your media sources will continue to push that crime is out of control. Thatās how it always works because election year.
Not going to argue with that
WuWei
68
It is out of control. Recidivism. Crimes committed while out on bail. Pleading down.
Bail reform has been a failure and it has led to an increase in crime. There is no doubt about that.
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GWH
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trying to double negative the illegals from the country. This tops undocumented American.
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conan
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How can that be? on one had you feel crime is down and than say bail reform increased crime.
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WuWei
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I donāt understand your argument. If there is an increase in crime, how is crime down?
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Because of the number of years since bail reform was put in place Because crime is still higher than before bail reform but lower than the year prior with bail reformā¦.
From record low to high then lower than the high but higher than the record low.

WuWei:
Stop man.
Crime is 10. Then crime is 15 then crime is 12.
Not going to stop.

WuWei:
Listen to yourself.
I am and i understand what i am saying.
Crime is worse than it has been the past twenty years preceding Covid and bail reform. It was less worse last year
I am actually fascinated that Oregon recrimnalizing drugs hasnāt made it into our discussions
Thank you as well!
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