You wrote "It is more complicated than that. These are theories and the terms are coined by different people at different times, so there’s going to be the complexity that results when you have a kitchen full of cooks, or worse, sociologists. Gender has multiple definitions. Gender identity is basically an “internal construct” that is influenced by both internal and external forces.
If gender has multiple definitions, you need to express which definition you are applying to it, if you want to have a meaningful exchange. Express yourself without using the fluid word “gender”.
Those of us on the pro-trans side don’t seem to have any trouble understanding each other. Seems easier to educate y’all that are confused then toss out the terms we’ve been using for decades and create new ones which haters are gonna nitpick regardless.
What does this discussion on gender terms have to do with painted us into a corner regarding puberty blockers?
If you have an unconfused idea of what gender means to you, you can state your opinions in this thread without using the fluid-in-meaning term “gender” at all. But you won’t. Because you are confused about what you mean.
"Gender refers to the social attributes and opportunities associated with being female and male and to the relationships between women and men and girls and boys, as well as to the relations between women and those between men. These attributes, opportunities and relationships are socially constructed and are learned through socialisation processes. They are context- and time-specific, and changeable. Gender determines what is expected, allowed and valued in a woman or a man in a given context. In most societies, there are differences and inequalities between women and men in responsibilities assigned, activities undertaken, access to and control over resources, as well as decision-making opportunities. Gender is part of the broader sociocultural context. Other important criteria for sociocultural analysis include class, race, poverty level, ethnic group and age.”
“Gender is a social, psychological and cultural construct and it is developed in the process of socialisation. Different societies and cultures may therefore have different understandings of what is ‘masculine’ or ‘feminine’. Societies create norms and expectations related to gender, and these are learned in the course of people’s lives – including in the family, at school, through the media. All of these influences impose certain roles and patterns of behaviour on everyone within society. Gender norms – often limited to notions of masculinity and femininity – change over time, but are usually based on a heteronormative order which stipulates that there are two sexes (genders) and they are attracted to each other. People who do not appear to fall under this binary notion of gender often suffer from exclusion, discrimination and violence.”
The idea that if I as a male like knitting and housekeeping (supposedly feminine gender activities) then I am feminine gender and I am entitled to swim competitively against women in a women’s sport event is just stupid.
How about degenderfying the activities instead of pretending people doing them must be female.
Same confusion here, the left is opposed to gender roles, they wouldn’t take kindly to saying homemaking is a feminine role, and yet, will applaud someone announcing they are a specified gender because they enjoy traditionally male or female activities. So we get guys who put on a dress who instead of just saying I like to wear dresses declaring they are women.
