I think it's time for a real national discussion on the legalization of weed

If we want law enforcement reforms that would show a tangible, real effect in America, this would be a really good place to start, and wouldn’t even be terribly controversial-2/3 of Americans think it should be legalized (including a majority of Republicans).

The young, Democratic mayor of Kansas City, MO is having that conversation in his city right now. He believes it would go a long way in dealing with racial injustice, but I think it would have even bigger implications than that.

Mayor Quinton Lucas, a Democrat, has announced a plan to completely remove all offenses related to marijuana possession from the city code, which he says are often pretexts for stopping people and lead to over-policing of Black and brown communities and negative police interactions.

When Illinois legalized, they expunged the records of roughly 3/4 of a MILLION people, and released 10k+ low-level pot offenders from prison (violent offenders were not eligible for expungement or parole). This meant that a lot of people who had that stigma following them via background checks are going to have a lot less of a problem “picking themselves up by the bootstraps” than they did before. It means the Land of Lincoln is going to waste a lot less money processing and incarcerating people for low-level offenses.

Well over half the country has legalized it in some form or fashion, and has shown that the US is committing a pretty major injustice against those it has arrested and criminalized for low-level, non-violent pot offenses.

In many places in America, a person can lose their freedom for possessing a ziplock bag, not even full, of a natural plant. Take TN, for example. Possessing ANY amount is punishable by up to a year and prison and a $2,500 fine. That mark follows a person, limiting what type of job they will be able to get and in general, just screws with peoples’ lives in ways it shouldn’t.

Not only that, but a few years back, a survey of law enforcement agencies showed that harder stuff was creating a much bigger problem for them than was weed, which was literally at the bottom of the list of all drugs.

The DEA asked a nationally representative sample of over 1,000 law enforcement agencies what they saw as their biggest drug threats. Marijuana came in at the bottom of the list, named by only 6 percent of survey respondents. The share of law enforcement agencies naming pot has been declining steadily since the mid-2000s, even as states have moved to legalize medical and recreational marijuana during that time period.

Whoever decides to follow through and do this is going to score a giant political win.

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I’ll smoke to that. :sunglasses:

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I honestly don’t really understand how anyone can make the argument that tobacco and/or alcohol can be legalized for adults, but marijuana can’t? Like on a textual and definition level. There is nothing that it does negatively that isn’t applicable to one or both of those.

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dope

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Just legalize it already. Theres bigger issues in America these days.

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That is of course stupid.

There is no discussion needed. It never should have been illegal in the first place. But it has nothing to do with “racial injustice”.

There should be no laws whatsoever regarding the use, possession, production or sell of marijuana with one exception - minors.

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That is an opinion.

I am going to state that I don’t have the experience of growing up in the circumstances he did in Kansas City, nor do I have the breadth of perspective given the things he experienced, studied, and saw during his time in South Africa. His resume is pretty impressive, especially given that he’s younger than most of us.

I don’t disagree. Regulate it like alcohol and cigarettes, for whatever good it will do. Keep doing DARE, but just be realistic about it.

But, I think that also means that we need to be realistic with minors about what it is and what it does. I have to stop myself from rolling my eyes every time I hear a police officer talk to kids about weed.

No, it is not.

Neither of which should be “regulated”, so yeah, get out of all of it.

No problem with that either.

I see the populace getting more stupid distracted every day.

Pot use is a part of it.

That said…leave it up to the states and pull the federal prohibition.

The “war on drugs” absolutely had a racial component.

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You literally called for a regulation here:

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weed has been legal here for awhile what have we seen?

increase good paying jobs, increased tax income, crime has not been effected still declining.

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I was working on my ego and being considerate when I did you that favor.

You can have the point.

“With one exception”. What do you want from me? What are you looking for?

Agreed.

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Our bodies are designed/evolved/whatever-you-want-to-call-it for cannabinoids, specifically our immune systems. Let’s start with our immune systems.

Cannabis kills tumor cells
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1576089
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20090845
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/616322
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14640910
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19480992
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15275820
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15638794
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16818650
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952650
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20307616
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16616335
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16624285
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10700234
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17675107
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14617682
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17342320
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16893424
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15026328

Uterine, testicular, and pancreatic cancers
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20925645

Brain cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11479216

Mouth and throat cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516734

Breast cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18454173
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16728591
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9653194

Lung cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25069049
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22198381?dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21097714?dopt=Abstract

Prostate cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12746841?dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3339795/?tool=pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22594963
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15753356
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10570948
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19690545

Blood cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12091357
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908594

Skin cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12511587
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19608284

Liver cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304

Cannabis cancer cures (general)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12514108
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15313899
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20053780
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18199524
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19589225
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12182964
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442435
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12723496
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16250836
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17237277

Cancers of the head and neck
http://ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2277494

Cholangiocarcinoma cancer
http://ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21115947

Leukemia
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15454482
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16139274
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14692532

Cannabis partially/fully induced cancer cell death
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12130702
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19457575
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18615640
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17931597
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18438336
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18387516
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15453094
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19229996
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9771884
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18339876
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12133838
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596790
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269508
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15958274
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19425170
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17202146
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11903061
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15451022
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20336665
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19394652
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11106791
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19189659
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16500647
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19539619
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19059457
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16909207
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18088200
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10913156
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18354058
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19189054
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17934890
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16571653
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19889794
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15361550

Translocation-positive rhabdomyosarcoma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19509271

Lymphoma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18546271
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16936228
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16337199
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19609004

Cannabis kills cancer cells
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16818634
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12648025
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952650
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16835997

Melanoma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17065222

Thyroid carcinoma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18197164

Colon cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18938775
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19047095

Intestinal inflammation and cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442536

Cannabinoids in health and disease
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18286801

Cannabis inhibits cancer cell invasion
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19914218

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What other “regulations like alcohol and tobacco” are even controversial? Don’t drive while inebriated, don’t sell to kids.

What do you want from me? What are you looking for?

Don’t drive impaired is regulating driving, not weed or alcohol.

Minors - if their parents want to supervise them while they drink or smoke weed, ok. Regulating minors, not weed or alcohol.

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You’ve been waiting a while to post that. Saved on your desktop? :joy:

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