I’m not a “lib” and the public school system I graduated from is not “today’s”.
How does a wall, which is actually a series of walls not all connected, built over a period of a 1,000+ years using various materials compare to the our fence? It’s a different design and was probably a lot more manned then our border. It was also not perfect at achieving its purpose.
Do you have any other completely different fortifications you want to bring up to justify the US border fence?
Just using it as an example to point out the silliness of your libbish statements.
First, you say that because of its size, it can’t be effective like a smaller wall around say, somebody importants house, like your Lib overlords. Then you say it’s too big to be manned. So the question is: who the hell is manning the open space where we cons would like to see a wall put up?
Doesn’t that seem to indicate to you that what we are saying about open borders is true?
I can’t answer that based on those pictures alone. How many border patrol are in a patrol on average? How do they decide when they need to bring in backup? How passable is the terrain around these areas? If they see people from a drone approaching the border, do they send a different number of patrols depending on if the wall is there or not? Is there a tunnel under the fence in that first picture we can’t see?
“The Trump border wall failed for all the predictable reasons. Immigrants used cheap ladders to climb over it, or they free climb it. They used cheap power tools to cut through it. They cut through small pieces and squeezed through, and they cut through big sections and drove through. In one small section in 2020, they sawed through at least 18 times that Border Patrol knew about in a month. They also made tunnels. Some tunnels were long, including the longest one ever discovered, but some were short enough just to get past the barrier.”
Guys you are wasting your time trying to convince that one kookfringe lib of the value of a physical barrier on the border. That person has decided he/she knows more than our border officials who actually planned and wanted the wall.
The simple reality is that pre Biden our border was in good shape…the #s on the border were under control for a variety of reasons.
Biden chose to undo everything that was working and has left us with a crisis level disaster at the border. Perfectly good materials that we the taxpayers funded have been left to rust in the weather, we the taxpayers spent millions and millions more to pay contractors to not build the wall…
The liberals position on this border situation is indefensible…that border is perhaps the single grandest example of failed government policy in our lifetimes…personally I think it’s an impeachable failure by the idiot in the White House and certainly by our failed DHS director MR mayorkas.
Biden’s intentional border failures cannot be defended.
If Democrats thought the illegal invaders would vote ‘R’ they would have National Guard troops with machine guns lined up waiting for them.
As for the “walls don’t work” crowd, the occasional athlete may scale the wall but that can easily be managed. What it will stop are the hordes of thousands in the caravans and that is why Democrats oppose it. Democrats don’t want the wall precisely because they know it does work.
Did Biden take down wall parts? Why would the completely parts of the wall be working under Trump and then not under Biden?
"Trump may also claim that Biden’s unique border policies explain why the wall failed. But Biden doesn’t have any unique border policies. He’s maintained virtually everything that was in place when Trump stood in front of the wall in January 2021 and declared victory. He continued to expel as many asylum seekers to Mexico as Mexico would take (even larger numbers in absolute terms than Trump). But the numbers are even higher than before the expulsion or Remain in Mexico programs were in existence in 2018 and 2019. The wall just has not done anything. This recent article on Border Patrol agent complaints under Biden doesn’t even mention the wall. "
A conspiracy theory. And I thought Hispanics we’re turning Republican?
“The Trump border wall failed for all the predictable reasons. Immigrants used cheap ladders to climb over it, or they free climb it. They used cheap power tools to cut through it. They cut through small pieces and squeezed through, and they cut through big sections and drove through. In one small section in 2020, they sawed through at least 18 times that Border Patrol knew about in a month. They also made tunnels. Some tunnels were long, including the longest one ever discovered, but some were short enough just to get past the barrier.” https://www.cato.org/blog/border-wall-didnt-work
I thought you were calling the immigrants lined up in the photo “libs”? Are you claiming these people trying to cross the border are libs because more of them are trying to climb the wall instead of going through an empty space?
Dude I’m going to share with you a simple reality. No matter what points are made in this thread you will respond with some new goofball set of questions.
Ignoring the simple reality that since Biden’s inauguration our southern border has become an unmitigated disaster.
Every policy and program that was working has been dismantled by Biden, mayorkas and company. Wall sections left half finished have been turned into monuments to government stupidity as the illegals and cartels use the infrastructure originally intended for border wall construction for their own purposes.
The southern border is a disaster…Biden mayorkas Harris and company are the reason.
And no I’m not wasting my time answering your stupid questions as you try to change the subject extend the argument or just be contrary. There is no reason to waste my time.
And I’m sure they all have nice dry, clean masks tucked into their pockets just waiting to put them on. Because they’re so considerate of our laws. I’ll bet they get handed a box of masks when they pick up their free phones.”.