Border Patrol Outrage

mobiusptc · 2019-07-25T12:01:51.153Z

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

Lazy answer

True answer. And you know it.

Is part of the answer, trump rhetoric and “uncuffing” CBP is another part and you know it

So you feel this couldn’t have happened under Obama?

My feelings have nothing to do with what happened to this guy

WuWei · 2019-07-25T12:08:05.881Z

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

Lazy answer

True answer. And you know it.

Is part of the answer, trump rhetoric and “uncuffing” CBP is another part and you know it

So you feel this couldn’t have happened under Obama?

My feelings have nothing to do with what happened to this guy

But you feel it is legitimate to blame Trump?

mobiusptc · 2019-07-25T12:14:47.840Z

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

Lazy answer

True answer. And you know it.

Is part of the answer, trump rhetoric and “uncuffing” CBP is another part and you know it

So you feel this couldn’t have happened under Obama?

My feelings have nothing to do with what happened to this guy

But you feel it is legitimate to blame Trump?

Feeling again has nothing to do with it. Facts are he “unchackled” them from past restrictions, and he is the current head.
No feelings

Camp · 2019-07-25T12:19:18.263Z

Go right ahead. Before you do, a little Connections reminder.

We only have Constitutional Rights because we are a nation.

We are a nation because we have physical borders and legal definitions of who is a citizen member.

Devaluing citizenship has the same degenerative effect on Constitutional rights.

It is all connected…until you devalue the nation.

WuWei · 2019-07-25T12:31:33.278Z

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

Lazy answer

True answer. And you know it.

Is part of the answer, trump rhetoric and “uncuffing” CBP is another part and you know it

So you feel this couldn’t have happened under Obama?

My feelings have nothing to do with what happened to this guy

But you feel it is legitimate to blame Trump?

Feeling again has nothing to do with it. Facts are he “unchackled” them from past restrictions, and he is the current head.
No feelings

So you feel it couldn’t have happened when Obama was the head?

WuWei · 2019-07-25T12:33:31.492Z

Why The Upcoming Raids Will Be a Disaster: ICE is Dangerously Inaccurate

You didn’t read his mother gave a fake name on his birth certificate?

from https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/23/francisco-galicia-us-citizen-held-cbp-ice-three-weeks-released

The problem was that she wasn’t listed as Francisco’s mother on his birth certificate because she was using a fake ID when she was living and working in Dallas. Parkland staff used the name on that ID on the birth certificate.

If he wants to sue someone, he should sue his mommy.

Based on this information, I withdraw my objection to his detention. I reserve the right to continue despising Centgov in general and to reinstate my objection in this case should further information come to light.

WuWei · 2019-07-25T12:34:21.998Z

mobiusptc:

Feeling again has nothing to do with it. Facts are he “unchackled” them from past restrictions, and he is the current head.
No feelings

You know it could. Say it.

mobiusptc · 2019-07-25T12:34:36.255Z

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

Lazy answer

True answer. And you know it.

Is part of the answer, trump rhetoric and “uncuffing” CBP is another part and you know it

So you feel this couldn’t have happened under Obama?

My feelings have nothing to do with what happened to this guy

But you feel it is legitimate to blame Trump?

Feeling again has nothing to do with it. Facts are he “unchackled” them from past restrictions, and he is the current head.
No feelings

So you feel it couldn’t have happened when Obama was the head?

No feeling required. I am sure it did considering he allowed CBP to have more amtrack and greyhound stops, he ain’t innocent That has what to do with this case and what trump has done in regards to CBP?

WuWei · 2019-07-25T12:35:35.757Z

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

Lazy answer

True answer. And you know it.

Is part of the answer, trump rhetoric and “uncuffing” CBP is another part and you know it

So you feel this couldn’t have happened under Obama?

My feelings have nothing to do with what happened to this guy

But you feel it is legitimate to blame Trump?

Feeling again has nothing to do with it. Facts are he “unchackled” them from past restrictions, and he is the current head.
No feelings

So you feel it couldn’t have happened when Obama was the head?

No feeling required. I am sure it did considering he allowed CBP to have more amtrack and greyhound stops, he ain’t innocent That has what to do with this case and what trump has done in regards to CBP?

What about under Clinton?

mobiusptc · 2019-07-25T12:37:18.818Z

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

Lazy answer

True answer. And you know it.

Is part of the answer, trump rhetoric and “uncuffing” CBP is another part and you know it

So you feel this couldn’t have happened under Obama?

My feelings have nothing to do with what happened to this guy

But you feel it is legitimate to blame Trump?

Feeling again has nothing to do with it. Facts are he “unchackled” them from past restrictions, and he is the current head.
No feelings

So you feel it couldn’t have happened when Obama was the head?

No feeling required. I am sure it did considering he allowed CBP to have more amtrack and greyhound stops, he ain’t innocent That has what to do with this case and what trump has done in regards to CBP?

What about under Clinton?

Fishing much? You know this was answered waaaaaaay back This thread right? If you weren’t looking for your feelings you might have caught it.

WuWei · 2019-07-25T12:48:17.184Z

mobiusptc:

Fishing much? You know this was answered waaaaaaay back This thread right? If you weren’t looking for your feelings you might have caught it.

The problem I have with it is you won’t admit the problem is much larger than TRUMP!

This is why nothing ever gets better. This is a systemic issue allowed by the judiciary. Not an Orange Man problem.

And now we see this particular case was self-induced.

BlueTex · 2019-07-25T12:51:05.560Z

WuWei:

The problem I have with it is you won’t admit the problem is much larger than TRUMP!

This is why nothing ever gets better. This is a systemic issue allowed by the judiciary. Not an Orange Man problem.

And now we see this particular case was self-induced.

In this we agree… Here is a great article discussing the years of mismanagement, low hiring standards and disarray in the border patrol.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/15/border-patrol-trump-administration-227357

WuWei · 2019-07-25T12:51:58.964Z

You want to prove a law is bad? Enforce it.

There are a ton of Centgov agencies that fall into that same category.

mobiusptc · 2019-07-25T12:54:31.915Z

WuWei:

mobiusptc:

Fishing much? You know this was answered waaaaaaay back This thread right? If you weren’t looking for your feelings you might have caught it.

The problem I have with it is you won’t admit the problem is much larger than TRUMP!

This is why nothing ever gets better. This is a systemic issue allowed by the judiciary. Not an Orange Man problem.

And now we see this particular case was self-induced.

Right I won’t admit that it’s not only trump…except I have multiple times in this very thread. You won’t admit that trump is actively making a bad situation worse with the way he is running his admin.

The judiciary almost never gets involved and just this past week trump changed the rules to make it easier for CBP to do things without getting judiciary involved!

And it wasn’t self Induced. Since when do we blame the sins of the parents on the child? Even treason in the Constitution does not allow that to happen.

Roxiebelle · 2019-07-25T13:05:52.162Z

This isn’t a valid complaint since the confusion or “mistake” was caused by his mothers illegal status. She couldn’t get him a passport and she had to ask for a visitors pass to get him back into the USA and it took three weeks to unravel the mess. Too bad so sad, not the fault of the Border Patrol its the fault of his illegal alien mother/parents.

Smyrna · 2019-07-25T13:18:29.785Z

I’ve got an idea…let’s build a tall, thick wall so that we can separate the evil Border Patrol from hurting those innocent illegal aliens who have no regard for our immigration laws?

mobiusptc · 2019-07-25T13:18:31.043Z

Roxiebelle:

This isn’t a valid complaint since the confusion or “mistake” was caused by his mothers illegal status. She couldn’t get him a passport and she had to ask for a visitors pass to get him back into the USA and it took three weeks to unravel the mess. Too bad so sad, not the fault of the Border Patrol its the fault of his illegal alien mother/parents.

Says the person who wants to "send back"US citizen because they said something mean

Camp · 2019-07-25T13:20:16.701Z

I think this is a fantastic idea.

I understand it has worked in more violent and desperate applications around the world.

highroller · 2019-07-25T13:21:36.683Z

Three weeks to unravel this? A simple phone call and fax would have worked. It should not have taken three weeks. I don’t care that his mother is an illegal alien in our country, he’s not.

Smyrna · 2019-07-25T13:22:36.341Z

Yep…the wall did wonders in helping San Diego with this same problem. Now…let’s go all along our southern border and fix this problem so that children won’t be put in those cages the Obama Administration built.