Another white texas cop murders a black person

[Samm]

I am in full agreement with you on this one. So many mistakes were made by the responding police officers, particularly the shooter; there was zero justification for this incident.

[Bodecea]

@Snow96

@LucyLou

I am so struggling with this. These cops got close enough to the front door to see open door, closed screen door, brightly lit interior with no signs of struggles.

How much of the house can they see? Is there/was there a struggle in a room they can’t see from the doorway?

@LucyLou

Can someone who knows better please let me know why they didn’t just continue on to the door and ring the bell or knock?

It all depends on how the call was called in. Was it – my neighbor is in the hospital and now the door is open and lights on? Was it the doors open lights on and I can hear weird noises? The way it was called in plays a huge part in how officers react.

@LucyLou

Nothing about that decision to wander the property shining flashlights into the home makes any sense unless you’ve already knocked on the door and got no response.

Officer safety. Bad guys expect the officers to come in the front door. Ring the doorbell or knock? Gives anyone inside the home a heads up.

@LucyLou

And even if no one had answered the door, is it appropriate to wander the property shining flashlights into the home? This wasn’t a 911 call. It was a wellness check requested by a neighbor. It’s not illegal to not answer the door.

I can tell you that bad crap happens even when a call doesn’t come in on 9-1-1. Again, a lot of it depends on what was said to dispatch when the call came in, and what dispatch told the officer responding.

@LucyLou

Just so tragic.

Very much so.
Officer has now resigned, and been charged (rightfully so) with murder.

And according to the morning news, he is not cooperating with the investigation.

[Snow96]

He’s under no obligation to do that.

Still going to turn out bad from the former officer on this one (AKA going to spend a lot of time in a tiny cell with lots of time to think about his mistake).

[LucyLou]

Rummaging around in all parts of the dark yard and shining flashlights around the property makes them a target for a frightened person in the house who may mistake them for being a threat.

Question. Because I really don’t know. In response to a non emergency welfare check call. Is it appropriate for police to go onto private property and start snooping around? There’s no obligation for anyone to answer a knock at the door. Minus any signs of trouble, isn’t that the end of that police visit?

I’m just having so much trouble wrapping my head around this tragedy.

[Snow96]

@LucyLou

Rummaging around in all parts of the dark yard and shining flashlights around the property makes them a target for a frightened person in the house who may mistake them for being a threat.

But less of a target through a window than in an open room (had they gone inside).

@LucyLou

In response to a non emergency welfare check call. Is it appropriate for police to go onto private property and start snooping around?

It all depends on what was said in the call to dispatch. I’ve had officers kick in a door. I’ve also had officers go around the home looking for an unlocked window to go in through.

@LucyLou

Minus any signs of trouble, isn’t that the end of that police visit?

Depends on protocol and what information was given.

@LucyLou

I’m just having so much trouble wrapping my head around this tragedy.

The officer, in my opinion, was in the wrong to fire that fast.

[FlameHeart]

Same here. It’s awful that a cop can March into someone’s home, when the person is unarmed, and shoot them on sight.

[RoyalBlue]

The nephew is saying the victim pointed her gun towards the window where the officer was. She had the right to do so if she heard someone outside her home at 2:30 in the morning. Now the police is saying it was a bad idea to release the picture of the gun. Yeah, it was, especially now that they find out it was legally purchased and she had a license to carry it. Can the police in Texas be any dumber?

Atatiana Jefferson pointed gun at window before Fort Worth officer killed...

[madasheck]

@moonshine

police get a call at 2:30 am that a womans door is open
they arrive and her screen door is closed but her front door is open
she is playing video games with her 8 year old nephew that she is babysitting

cop shines a flashlight into a darkend room
he shouts Put your hands up! Show me your hands! he doesnt id himself as a cop
within 2 seconds he fires a shot killing the woman

police released a partial body cam video as well as a heavily edited photo of a gun.

and people wonder why a lot of blacks perceive the police as the enemy…

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/14/us/fort-worth-police-shooting-atatiana-jefferson/index.html

And Texas is an open carry state. This puts a block in the argument that open carry is the end-all to gun safety.

[mot1man]

@madasheck

This puts a block in the argument that open carry is the end-all to gun safety.

Who’s made this argument? Link please.

[TheRedComet]

Who said that?

This was a stupid cop doing something completely brain dead and not showing any respect for the citizen he murdered.

[madasheck]

@mot1man

@madasheck

This puts a block in the argument that open carry is the end-all to gun safety.

Who’s made this argument? Link please.

Easy find.

Another Timely Message for Beto and his Fellow Gun Banners

Nobody benefits more by exercising their 2nd Amendment Rights than the poor, minorities, and women and nobody suffers more as result of gun control.

[RTchoke]

Where is open carry mentioned in the post you quoted?

[madasheck]

It’s part of exerting second amendment rights.

[RTchoke]

But not at all related to what you are trying to portray in your post.

[Guvnah]

@madasheck

This puts a block in the argument that open carry is the end-all to gun safety.

Who’s made this argument? Link please.

Easy find.

Nobody benefits more by exercising their 2nd Amendment Rights than the poor, minorities, and women and nobody suffers more as result of gun control.

The statement you cited (which I bolded) is not saying that “open carry is the end-all to gun safety.”

Not even remotely.

[madasheck]

It’s all related.

[RTchoke]

No it’s not.

Open carry has absolutely nothing to do with the OP, nor with whatever cockeyed point you think you are trying to make about gun safety.

[WuWei]

She didn’t need a license. That is completely irrelevant.

[WuWei]

@madasheck

And Texas is an open carry state. This puts a block in the argument that open carry is the end-all to gun safety.

What an incredibly stupid post. Education is in order.

[WuWei]

@GWH would you move this out of the graveyard and into the 2nd Amendment forum please?

This lady citizen was obviously exercising those rights when this fascist agent of the state took her life.

Thank you.