After the dems ban AR-15's then what?

No there was not.

The only thing that came close was Obama explaining…after the ACA passed…that the restrictions did not PREVENT doctors from asking about guns in the home- there was no language being slipped in saying doctors should ask- and what the Reid restrictions did prohibit was any extensive data collection when it came to gun ownership.

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Those provisions were included by Reid at NRA insistence. Biden had nothing to do with it.

The President is calling on lawmakers to pass some specific proposals, including the elimination of all loopholes and require a universal background check on anyone trying to buy a gun, restoring the ban on military-style assault weapons and a 10-round limit for magazines, and creating tougher penalties on people who buy guns with the express purpose of reselling them to criminals.

Emphasis mine. Mag limits include pistols. The criteria for “assault weapons” goes far beyond ARs.

These actions are the result of the effort led by Vice President Joe Biden and members of the Cabinet to come up with concrete steps that we can take right now to keep our children safe, help prevent mass shootings, and reduce the broader epidemic of gun violence in this country.

Biden is a gun grabber for everything except clay pigeon guns shot off a balcony or through a door.

It’s ok, no need to pretend he’s not.

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Sept 2019

Nov 2019

Im sure there are others. That was just using the search feature for 5 mins. You keep thinking Joe is done that Dems have moved on…
And yet…
Biden is the Head of the Democratic Party.

The liberal-socialists plan will be to tax the bejesus out of .223 and 5.56 retail ammunition and reloading supplies or regulate the manufacturers out of existence. They’ll use the CDC to declare “AR Style” rifle platforms a “Health Hazard” based on murders committed by mentally deranged individuals who gained access to a magazine fed semi-automatic weapon and killed indiscriminately.
Don’t be surprised when it happens.

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He did that in 2013…when there was a GOP-controlled Congress.

What were we just talking about? if he was out to “get our guns”, he would have done it when he had a Dem-controlled Congress.

Easy to play political games when you know what you’re proposing doesn’t have a snowball’s chance of getting passed.

And the point of mentioning Reid is to show how the NRA had enough clout to influence pols whom you think would be against them.

Even weakened, this is still true of the NRA today.

There was absolutely nothing true of your statement that Obama tried to slip gun control language into the ACA when he held a Dem majority in Congress.

Thank you, that’s enough. Yes, I was wrong. I underestimated the dems’ willingness to forgive overt racism in the will to power.

Biden is not the head of his own household, much less the Democratic party.

Of course there is. Why did Reid put that provision in there?

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To get rid of any potential NRA opposition.

The idea there was specific gun control language being put in was a myth being spread in RW circles.

Point to the language you think Obama tried to slip in- during his first two years in office.

You didn’t point to any such language- you instead pivoted to stuff he was saying in 2013.

To what?

If it is not expressly illegal, it is legal.

Look at your own admission.

They were planning it and you know it. They even tried to play with it after they got caught.

The reason Reid included it was not so much to get obamacare passed, but to keep from getting thrown out on their collective ears in the next election.

The ACA in general.

Since RW groups were lining up to be against it simply because Obama was for it.

I will again ask you to point to the specific language you claim Obama tried to slip into the legislation anywhere between 2009-2011.

Since you claim you know he tried to do this- link to it.

Obamacare didn’t need specific language allowing or mandating it, just not prohibiting it. Then I can direct the CDC to collect it.

Come on, you know how this works.

Where did the NRA get the idea it was necessary?

When did we find out about Gruber and “the stupidity of the American voter” they so counted on?

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No, RW groups were against it because Obama wanted the government to seize control of 1/6th of the nation’s economy.

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No he didn’t.

This is an even more ridiculous argument.

Beretta Px4 Actually as my hand gun 9mm

It won’t be if a ban is passed. At least not as you know it.

Really? I thought it was perfectly clear. But then, I have a solid understanding of the 2nd Amendment specifically and the Constitution in general.

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Then one has to wonder why you are actively participating in this thread.

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What about the lives of people who use guns to save their lives? Are you pro-life regarding them?

You are playing a foolish game of hypotheticals. There is no way to know how many more or how many fewer lives would have been spared or lost if the gunman had used a different weapon. Each incident is unique. None of the circumstances of one incident carries over to another. Well, except for those incidents where the gunman was stopped by a possible victim who was armed, which almost certainly saved the lives of many other potential victims.

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That’s probably because you never owed any of the guns that were “grabbed” in California. Californian is a glaring example of government grabbing guns.

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He’s not even remotely in charge. He’s barely even a figurehead.