Young boy dies in immigration custody after being "diagnosed" with a cold

xcon · 2018-12-26T19:44:41.242Z

How did Native Americans get killed off?
Numerous diseases were brought to North America, including smallpox , bubonic plague, chickenpox, cholera, the common cold, diphtheria, influenza , malaria, measles , scarlet fever, sexually transmitted diseases, typhoid, typhus, tuberculosis, pertussis ( whooping cough), etc.
Our kids are no long able to fight off these sicknesses…Ask your doctor!

FlameHeart · 2018-12-26T20:22:46.596Z

There is something missing; there is more to this situation. Most people’S immune systems, even upon primary exposure, destroy the virus within 1-2 weeks. I wonder if this boy had undiagnosed AIDS, which would make him more susceptible to oppotunistic infections? Either that or it was another more deadly adenovirus. Either way, the government is not necessarily responsible, because they went on what they knew based on the documentation provided. Let’s wait until the autopsy is complete. (I might edit this when I have time to read the article.)

FlameHeart · 2018-12-26T20:26:23.804Z

This is what the left does- using people’s personal tragedies as political footballs. But alas, that is the core of identity politics.

NotoriousNik · 2018-12-26T20:38:36.569Z

FlameHeart:

This is what the left does- using people’s personal tragedies as political footballs. But alas, that is the core of identity politics.

Okay, but you can’t just say that about the left. The right has done their fair share of political football punting as well. The four men killed in Benghazi alone were handed off, passed around, and spiked for over seven years. The lady in San Francisco was used much the same way. Some on the right are just as guilty as some on the left.

Don’t fall intp the trap of making lazy generalizations. You’re too smart for that.

Rurudyne · 2018-12-26T20:51:03.901Z

Is there anyone in the Administration now who has been accused of issuing a stand down order to physicians or has come out to say what difference does it make now about this?

Benghazi and these two deaths in custody do not line up.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-12-26T20:51:15.219Z

FlameHeart:

This is what the left does- using people’s personal tragedies as political footballs. But alas, that is the core of identity politics.

Its not a “personal” tragedy. This was a young child under watch in a government facility. The fact that you just write it off as a meh whatever is … interesting. I guess I can understand it though, given how people view immigrants as diseased animals. Ya’ll got more upset over NFLers kneeling than the death of a young child.

Tim · 2018-12-26T20:51:54.794Z

According to an updated report, after being discharged from the hospital the father of the child declined further medical assistance once back in the detention center.

Story update

Following the child’s first discharge from the hospital, both he and the father were put into a temporary holding facility where agents were aware of the child’s illness and provided the child with his medication. A few hours after the father and boy entered the facility, the child complained of being nauseous and later vomited.

It was at this point the father declined further medical treatment for his son and told officials he “had been feeling better,” an official said.

During a subsequent welfare check, agents at the facility noticed the child’s condition and transported him to the hospital. The child later lost consciousness during transit and was eventually declared dead just before midnight.

Rurudyne · 2018-12-26T20:52:50.798Z

Poor kid. .

ComfortablyNumb · 2018-12-26T21:01:29.211Z

Tim:

According to an updated report, after being discharged from the hospital the father of the child declined further medical assistance once back in the detention center.

Story update

Following the child’s first discharge from the hospital, both he and the father were put into a temporary holding facility where agents were aware of the child’s illness and provided the child with his medication. A few hours after the father and boy entered the facility, the child complained of being nauseous and later vomited.

It was at this point the father declined further medical treatment for his son and told officials he “had been feeling better,” an official said.

During a subsequent welfare check, agents at the facility noticed the child’s condition and transported him to the hospital. The child later lost consciousness during transit and was eventually declared dead just before midnight.

This whole thing is tragic. But unrelated to the tragedy of a child dying, I personally would not trust anything from the Daily Caller without corroborating evidence. They have been caught too many times deceiving their readers with fake news and fake sources. Do you have any links from any reputable source for this?

madasheck · 2018-12-26T23:02:11.916Z

DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen criticized the government for the boy’s death. According to USA Today, she called the boy’s death a “deeply concerning and heartbreaking” tragedy and USA Today said she cited U.S. immigration system failings for a growing border crisis. Sad to see some people trying to draw criticism away from the government. They set this situation up. Of course, they’re responsible.

USA TODAY

DHS chief slams immigration system in wake of 2nd migrant child death, orders...

U.S. Customs and Border Patrol orders medical exams for all children it holds in custody after the death of a Guatemalan boy on Christmas Eve.

Snow96 · 2018-12-27T01:01:46.497Z

madasheck:

One point here: The boy was released from the hospital with a 103-degree fever. Why?

How many kids who go to a Doctors office or hospital are immediately hospitalized and kept for a 103 degree fever?

Snow96 · 2018-12-27T01:05:59.668Z

Well first of all the source is kinda sketchy

Following the child’s first discharge from the hospital, both he and the father were put into a temporary holding facility where agents were aware of the child’s illness and provided the child with his medication. A few hours after the father and boy entered the facility, the child complained of being nauseous and later vomited.

It was at this point the father declined further medical treatment for his son and told officials he “had been feeling better,” an official said.

Father allegendly said his son was feeling better and didn’t want any further treatment. What if Boarder patrol had followed the fathers wishes?

Again, the source is the sketchy kind.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/26/guatemala-medical-treatment/

madasheck · 2018-12-27T02:27:04.315Z

Snow96:

madasheck:

One point here: The boy was released from the hospital with a 103-degree fever. Why?

How many kids who go to a Doctors office or hospital are immediately hospitalized and kept for a 103 degree fever?

Ask a doctor, but as a parent, I wouldn’t let that kid go.

Snow96 · 2018-12-27T02:35:05.710Z

So if the Doctor says here’s a couple prescriptions, watch them closely . . . you’d look the Doc in the eye (you know the professional) and tell them you want your child admitted to the hospital?

Also remember as a parent, more than likely you wouldn’t go to the emergency room unless you couldn’t get in to see your normal family doctor.

Guessing you don’t have kids. I’ve had a kid with a fever higher than that, and they were not hospitalized.

madasheck · 2018-12-27T03:07:11.453Z

So if the Doctor says here’s a couple prescriptions, watch them closely . . . you’d look the Doc in the eye (you know the professional) and tell them you want your child admitted to the hospital?

Also remember as a parent, more than likely you wouldn’t go to the emergency room unless you couldn’t get in to see your normal family doctor.

Guessing you don’t have kids. I’ve had a kid with a fever higher than that, and they were not hospitalized.

You’re wrong because depending on the age of the child, especially if it’s an infant, 103 can be very dangerous.

And I do have a son, though he’s over 21 now.

Snow96 · 2018-12-27T03:11:39.056Z

Do the doctors in the United States have history on this child? Would he be treated any differently than any child that came in with cold/flue symtoms?

Why would he be treated different without knowing his medical history? Did daddy dearest fill out the paperwork wrong?

keep in mind if the other article has accurate information, Daddy dearest didn’t want him to go back to the hospital when his symptoms were getting worse.

madasheck · 2018-12-27T03:13:52.185Z

Snow96:

Do the doctors in the United States have history on this child? Would he be treated any differently than any child that came in with cold/flue symtoms?

Why would he be treated different without knowing his medical history? Did daddy dearest fill out the paperwork wrong?

I’m not playing the usual game of parse every single scenario ad infinitum with you. They decided today to give all the kids medical checks. That should tell you they know they dropped the ball.

Snow96 · 2018-12-27T03:16:39.577Z

No it doesn’t. How many screanings to apparently healthy kids get normally?

Say two kids in a school fall ill, is there a manditory screening for all kids at the school?

madasheck · 2018-12-27T03:19:53.521Z

Snow96:

No it doesn’t. How many screanings to apparently healthy kids get normally?

Say two kids in a school fall ill, is there a manditory screening for all kids at the school?

That’s totally irrelevant. This isn’t school.

LucyLou · 2018-12-27T03:20:12.136Z

Snow96:

No it doesn’t. How many screanings to apparently healthy kids get normally?

Say two kids in a school fall ill, is there a manditory screening for all kids at the school?

Healthy kids in a US school haven’t just spent weeks trekking on foot across Mexico, having left behind a life of questionable health and safety.