Would gropey joe biden Have "Won" the 2020 Election If Not For covid-19?

its not challenging at all. the dude is flawed in many ways. still would have won without the democrat politicization of covid.

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That’s the problem. If you look at how things have gone since 1980- we see Dems regularly winning California and New Mexico- and then Virginia and Colorado- and now Arizona and Georgia. Texas has turned purple as well. I will acknowledge strong in roads bu the GOP in the Rust belt though.

The trajectory for the GOP is poor unless significant structural changes are made.

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In 2016 Trump won three states by less then 1%. Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Michigan was 0.23%! A razor thin win by any standards. And in which three states did the Biden campaign spend the most time and money? They knew if they were able to flip those states Biden would have the same win as Trump did. And it worked.

Maybe- but his temperament and endless drama had already alienated him from much of the Middle.

“A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?”

“And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.”

Trumpsplaining can try and undo it but come on- only if this was a one off. His bizarre meandering riffs were legendary.

nope, just a leftist narrative. before covid he looked almost unbeatable.

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yeah…the explanation here will be “he didn’t tell anyone to inject it…he was just asking questions…”

And therefore that will bolster their support…because people heard this craziness and laughed.

You will notice that the Republicans did not do a post election autopsy as they did after Obama’s wins. It seems that they are going to relay on changing election rules then any changes to structure. Hell, they didn’t even try to modify the party platform for the last general election. And I think that these changes in election rules are going to bite them in the butt in some swing districts in the next couple of elections.

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Lol yeah that must be why the GOP controlled those Senate seats for decades.

They see the changes coming and voter suppression is really a last gasp instead of making changes to their platform to appeal to a wider base. But any appeals to a wider base alienates the red meat crowd. Theyre trapped.

Yeah, I don’t think so.

It’s impossible to tell for sure because covid dominated the campaigns, but honesty, if he did a better job with covid, he would have one. But instead of reacting to it like a war, and rallying us against the common virus enemy, he freaked out because he saw his golden ticket getting torn the shreds - the economy - and true to his personality, he tried to bully the country into forgetting about a deadly pandemic.

The same personality traits that won over so many people like you prevented him from doing what should be done and securing his second term.

But it is who he is, and his personality is strong enough o keep supporters such as yourself enthralled, but not deep enough to pivot to take necessary steps and that prevents him from expanding his base.

What was his approval rating then?

If that is why he lost then he deserved to lose…but I disagree Repugs did not lose down ballot just at the top which is telling

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Yea …All he had to do was show he could handle a crisis…And Covid showed he wasn’t up to the task.

It is an interesting observation that Trump pre-COVID-19 pandemic looked almost unbeatable. Given he was the president, had access to Fox News and other similar news networks, how could he have lost control of the narrative if he handled the pandemic with even a modicum of competence?

I really can’t think of anything so symbolic of the mess that was trump.

His 2020 platform, published on his website included three of four condemnations of the ‘current administration’ and ‘occupant of the white house’.

Not only did they not write a new platform, they didn’t even EDIT the old one.

Laziness, lack of real vision for America, and ineptitude. All rolled into one.

It would be nice to get some people running that aren’t directly related to nor have previously worked for the last four (or maybe even eight) administrations and are in fact somewhat competent for a change. I’m dreaming, I know.

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Seems everyone forgot about the crisis he was creating before that with his silly trade war with China.

Add on to that fear. A populist took over the GOP and anyone suggesting policies not aligned with Trump would lose their career. They are paralyzed.

I do think 2024 will shake them out of that paralysis tho. Either Trump will run and lose horribly or he won’t run. Either way will radically reduce his waning power.