Why Would Anyone Want to Live In a Democrat Town?

[zantax]

@TommyLucchese

@zantax

Liberal cities aren’t anywhere near as bad as they used to be crime wise. Thanks to politicians like Biden making it possible to put so many criminals in jail and keep them there. Though he seems to have evolved on that position.

Nah, it was the end of the crack epidemic and the passing of the “youth bulge” that saw crime rates from the early 70’s into the mid 90s shoot into the stratosphere all over the country.

And you think the crack epidemic just ended spontaneously?

[rp5x5]

@Chris

Republicans are usually pretty good Governors and mayors. I recently voted for my Republican mayor for another term. But I am voting Biden/Harris during this Presidential election.

Does it matter that they hate America and are crooked and selling out the USA?

[sikofit]

@TommyLucchese

@Chris

Republicans are usually pretty good Governors and mayors. I recently voted for my Republican mayor for another term. But I am voting Biden/Harris during this Presidential election.

There’s not really much difference between Democrats and Republicans. Everyone is disturbingly moderate for the most part. Democrats are pro gun. Republicans are pro union. The one anti-union Republican governor we’ve had, he was foolish enough to publicly voice these thoughts and instantly lost thirty points of approval, and he was pretty moderate by every other metric.

Yeah, no real difference. San Diego has had a Republican mayor and city council for 15 years and we have all the same problems that LA and SF have

[Eagle-Keeper]

@biggestal99

Lol. I live in a Democrat town, Dover, New Jersey. Majority Hispanic. Black woman Mayor.

No rioting nor looting takes place, and I have lived here 29 years.

As far as NJ goes Dover is middle of the pack. By no means I’m sure you would claim it’s the most desirable place in NJ to live in.

NJ Towns Graded In 2019, From A+ To D-: How Did Our Community Do?

[thinkingman]

@JayJay

@thinkingman

@TommyLucchese

@thinkingman

the first post about how nice pittsburgh is (ostensibly due to democrat leadership) was by you

All the good and bad things that have happened to Pittsburgh in the last hundred years have been under Democrats. From David Lawrence inventing the modern urban renewal program with the Renaissance to the mills leaving to barely hanging on through the next couple decades towards the new urban renewal that started in the late 90s and has revitalized the city.

It’s almost like I’m saying it’s a stupid ■■■■■■■ way to judge things.

i partly agree, but broader policies affect industrial areas too. surrounding communities are affected by this.

Those “broader polices”, such as tax incentives that rewarded companies whether they were investing in true economy-growing activities or not, relaxation of capital flows into and out of the country, were first instituted in the 1980s as part of supply side economics, and have been the basis of economic policies of both Republican and Democratic leaders ever since then.

Instead of US Steel having to remain competitive against the many foreign steel firms that cropped up in the late 1970s and early 1980s, these policies and incentives allowed them to make money via leveraged buyouts, sell offs and other financial machinations.

yes right. economic policies that ultimately rewarded companies overseas as they ate our lunch in ■■■■■■ trade deals

i remember hearing about this since the 80’s. there was one person in particular who was very critical of that then

let’s see what was his name again…all those years…

[TommyLucchese]

@zantax

And you think the crack epidemic just ended spontaneously?

Heroin came back as the drug of choice in the late 90s. And dope is profitable but it’s not cocaine profitable, it’s not a thousand percent profit an ounce profitable. Violence wasn’t as worth it when there wasn’t millions on the line. Also heroin addicts are sneak thieves and boosters, not violent like crackheads and coke fiends.

There were a lot of interconnected reasons. The proliferation of cell phones made drug corners less necessary. The gang banging culture died off as physical territory became less important. People stopped hanging outside all the time because of multimedia and helicopter parenting.

The broken windows theory of policing is garbage. Stats based policing made a bit of a dent in some places but created a whole new set of problems.

[Bodecea]

@zantax

@JayJay

@zantax

@JayJay

I addressed that…easy for you to say…it is belied by your immediate emotional response to when I made this post in the first place.

Well, obviously you know more about what I think then I do. So you should probably just discuss this with yourself.

It’s human nature to excuse/overlook evils done for a cause one supports while saying words to the contrary.

For immoral people maybe.

That is true…immoral people.

[JayJay]

@thinkingman

@JayJay

@thinkingman

@TommyLucchese

@thinkingman

the first post about how nice pittsburgh is (ostensibly due to democrat leadership) was by you

All the good and bad things that have happened to Pittsburgh in the last hundred years have been under Democrats. From David Lawrence inventing the modern urban renewal program with the Renaissance to the mills leaving to barely hanging on through the next couple decades towards the new urban renewal that started in the late 90s and has revitalized the city.

It’s almost like I’m saying it’s a stupid ■■■■■■■ way to judge things.

i partly agree, but broader policies affect industrial areas too. surrounding communities are affected by this.

Those “broader polices”, such as tax incentives that rewarded companies whether they were investing in true economy-growing activities or not, relaxation of capital flows into and out of the country, were first instituted in the 1980s as part of supply side economics, and have been the basis of economic policies of both Republican and Democratic leaders ever since then.

Instead of US Steel having to remain competitive against the many foreign steel firms that cropped up in the late 1970s and early 1980s, these policies and incentives allowed them to make money via leveraged buyouts, sell offs and other financial machinations.

yes right. economic policies that ultimately rewarded companies overseas as they ate our lunch in ■■■■■■ trade deals

i remember hearing about this since the 80’s. there was one person in particular who was very critical of that then

let’s see what was his name again…all those years…

Being critical is not enough.

Having sensible alternatives that actually worked is necessary.

And nothing Trump has done has stopped Rentier Capitalism, which is by far the biggest reason the Rust Belt rusted out.

Why would Trump want to stop Rentier Capitalism.

He is the epitome of a Rentier Capitalist…using government to enrich himself, his family and his cronies.

[Chris]

@rp5x5

Does it matter that they hate America and are crooked and selling out the USA?

Biden and Harris don’t hate America. Trump as President, has shown the most contempt for the Constitution than any other President in my lifetime.

[thinkingman]

@JayJay

@thinkingman

@JayJay

@thinkingman

@TommyLucchese

@thinkingman

the first post about how nice pittsburgh is (ostensibly due to democrat leadership) was by you

All the good and bad things that have happened to Pittsburgh in the last hundred years have been under Democrats. From David Lawrence inventing the modern urban renewal program with the Renaissance to the mills leaving to barely hanging on through the next couple decades towards the new urban renewal that started in the late 90s and has revitalized the city.

It’s almost like I’m saying it’s a stupid ■■■■■■■ way to judge things.

i partly agree, but broader policies affect industrial areas too. surrounding communities are affected by this.

Those “broader polices”, such as tax incentives that rewarded companies whether they were investing in true economy-growing activities or not, relaxation of capital flows into and out of the country, were first instituted in the 1980s as part of supply side economics, and have been the basis of economic policies of both Republican and Democratic leaders ever since then.

Instead of US Steel having to remain competitive against the many foreign steel firms that cropped up in the late 1970s and early 1980s, these policies and incentives allowed them to make money via leveraged buyouts, sell offs and other financial machinations.

yes right. economic policies that ultimately rewarded companies overseas as they ate our lunch in ■■■■■■ trade deals

i remember hearing about this since the 80’s. there was one person in particular who was very critical of that then

let’s see what was his name again…all those years…

Being critical is not enough.

Having sensible alternatives that actually worked is necessary.

And nothing Trump has done has stopped Rentier Capitalism, which is by far the biggest reason the Rust Belt rusted out.

Why would Trump want to stop Rentier Capitalism.

He is the epitome of a Rentier Capitalist…using government to enrich himself, his family and his cronies.

baloney. he was a billionaire long before politics

vs most other politicians who have become rich by being in politics

that narrative falls face first with non-stupid people. sorry

[Paul_Thomson]

That’s the point. That’s the strategy. Drive out the rich from habitual democrat voters from states and cities that have way more democrat voters than needed to carry the state, and hope they settle in well-policed and well run less taxed conservative states to tip the balance there more towards blue.

[acsirip]

@thinkingman

he was a billionaire long before politics

he was/is? you saw that in his tax returns?

[thinkingman]

@acsirip

@thinkingman

he was a billionaire long before politics

he was/is? you saw that in his tax returns?

no as a famous billionaire on Oprah in the 80’s, before they started calling him a racist

[JayJay]

You think Trump didn’t use politicians and policies to enrich himself before he started running for office?

You aren’t seriously naive enough to believe he is someone different than the other enormously wealthy Rentier Capitalists in the world?

Seriously tell me you aren’t that naive.

[TommyLucchese]

@Paul_Thomson

That’s the point. That’s the strategy. Drive out the rich from habitual democrat voters from states and cities that have way more democrat voters than needed to carry the state, and hope they settle in well-policed and well run less taxed conservative states to tip the balance there more towards blue.

Except for the fact that the story of the 21st century in America so far has been the well-off returning to the urban cores, not leaving.

[Paul_Thomson]

@JayJay

You think Trump didn’t use politicians and policies to enrich himself before he started running for office?

Of course he did. He has admitted publicly that he played the system to win by the rules congress set for everyone. That’s legal and makes business sense.

[Jezcoe]

@JayJay

You think Trump didn’t use politicians and policies to enrich himself before he started running for office?

You aren’t seriously naive enough to believe he is someone different than the other enormously wealthy Rentier Capitalists in the world?

Seriously tell me you aren’t that naive.

It’s not like Fred Trump made his money on the backs of FHA loans or nothing.

[Jezcoe]

@Paul_Thomson

@JayJay

You think Trump didn’t use politicians and policies to enrich himself before he started running for office?

Of course he did. He has admitted publicly that he played the system to win by the rules congress set for everyone. That’s legal and makes business sense.

And also massive tax fraud.

But he hasn’t admitted that part yet.

[NJBob]

@Eagle-Keeper

@biggestal99

Lol. I live in a Democrat town, Dover, New Jersey. Majority Hispanic. Black woman Mayor.

No rioting nor looting takes place, and I have lived here 29 years.

As far as NJ goes Dover is middle of the pack. By no means I’m sure you would claim it’s the most desirable place in NJ to live in.

NJ Towns Graded In 2019, From A+ To D-: How Did Our Community Do? | Point Pleasant, NJ Patch

For what it’s worth my NJ community rated an A+.

[zantax]

@Chris

@rp5x5

Does it matter that they hate America and are crooked and selling out the USA?

Biden and Harris don’t hate America. Trump as President, has shown the most contempt for the Constitution than any other President in my lifetime.

He sign any kill orders against American citizens yet?