Why does this administration think more Foreign Dependency is the Answer

[DougBH]

@Auto129

Going full steam into green stuff is the most serious you can get for the next cold war. One cyber attack in one company put fuel infrastructure for the entire southeast on life support last year. The more we can electrify transportation infrastructure, the more robust our economy will be to disturbances.

Because windmills are not subject to cyber attacks. Where does that electricity come from?

[Auto129]

If a wind farm in south carolina went down, I’d still have electricity. Colonial caused fuel shortages as far away as central florida.

[WuWei]

@JayJay

How do we know it’s to US mining standards?

Because Minnesota is in the US.

[WuWei]

@Auto129

Going full steam into green stuff is the most serious you can get for the next cold war. One cyber attack in one company put fuel infrastructure for the entire southeast on life support last year. The more we can electrify transportation infrastructure, the more robust our economy will be to disturbances.

You feel they can’t cyber attack electricity?

[Auto129]

The electric grid is a much bigger giant to take down. It comes from everywhere and goes everywhere with redundant capacity everywhere. Takes an act of god to go down.

Colonial was one company with a billing issue.

[WuWei]

@Auto129

The electric grid is a much bigger giant to take down. It comes from everywhere and goes everywhere with redundant capacity everywhere. Takes an act of god to go down.

Colonial was one company with a billing issue.

Sure about that? Seems like ol’ Fancy Bear took the Ukraine grid down a few years ago, just to prove they could.

[gooddad409]

@e7alr

First it was impede domestic energy production and energy infrastructure, at the expense of US jobs. Now it is impeding domestic mining for minerals, including those needed for battery production. Apparently being dependent on foreign sources (like China) for essential minerals, supporting foreign economies and foreign workers is somehow wiser that using US sources, with US workers.
Domestic mineral supply chain debate continues after Biden cancels Minnesota mining leases

The Biden family probably owes China…BIGLY!

[Auto129]

Yes, I’m sure. Even that required more effort than ransomware in one company’s accounting department.

[WuWei]

@Auto129

Yes, I’m sure. Even that required more effort than ransomware in one company’s accounting department.

Mmm. OK then.

[gooddad409]

@DougBH

@Auto129

Going full steam into green stuff is the most serious you can get for the next cold war. One cyber attack in one company put fuel infrastructure for the entire southeast on life support last year. The more we can electrify transportation infrastructure, the more robust our economy will be to disturbances.

Because windmills are not subject to cyber attacks. Where does that electricity come from?

Must be the new talking points. I’ve never heard anything so ridiculous as that green energy theory.

There’s not nearly enough green energy to supply the country even without a cyber attack.

[e7alr]

@JayJay

How do we know it’s to US mining standards?

That seems to be the point under debate.

Last time I checked mining operations in the US fall under the regulatory control of the State where the mine is located and the Federal regulator. And, of course, the EPA would also be involved. So are you saying that the federal government and the states are not enforcing US mining standards here in the US?

First you can’t actually come up with a reason why supporting foreign jobs is better than supporting US jobs. Now you want to act like our regulatory standards won’t be enforced.

[WuWei]

https://www.msha.gov/

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency | US EPA

[Samm]

@e7alr

And just how is an underground mine, employing US employees, conducted to US mining standards, producing US resources and stimulating economic activity in a region of the US a bad deal? The status quo is import a larger portion of the needed materials, from nations that don’t follow US environmental rules, all the while supporting jobs and economic activity outside the US in places like China. So explain the logic that makes this US mining operation a bad deal.

As far as anything and everything (other than air and water) that man needs to live and maintain his standard of living must either be grown or mined. Most Libs seem to believe that minerals grow on trees.

[Ben_Natuf]

anybody could grow them. dig a hole, add water and stuff grows.

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@biggestal99

What happened to America first.

Just empty,words?

Allan

Sweetheart deal for Chilean billionaire from our beloved former president.

America first?

Sweetheart deal? Have you got any concept of how many millions, often billions, of dollars that a mining company dumps into developing a new mineral deposit before they recoup even one dollar in revenue? And then once production begins, how many millions of dollars per year they spend operating the mine? Virtually all of that money goes into the US economy.

You act like you think these large foreign owned mining companies (All of the top ten mining companies in the world are foreign owned. Ever wonder why?) can just come here, grease a few palms, dig a big ugly hole, and then leave an environmental disaster in their wake. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Considering that your ilk fancies itself a champion of the environment, one would think you would understand the mineral rights leasing and the environmental permitting processes better. But as usual, you just shoot from the hip with no regard for the truth.

[Samm]

Pay wall.

[biggestal99]

@Samm

Sweetheart deal? Have you got any concept of how many millions, often billions, of dollars that a mining company dumps into developing a new mineral deposit before they recoup even one dollar in revenue? And then once production begins, how many millions of dollars per year they spend operating the mine? Virtually all of that money goes into the US economy.

Did you read the article, the lease was for an untapped region of Minnesota chock full of minerals.

Why let Chile have it?

Allan

[Samm]

No I didn’t read it. There is a pay wall.

All large mineral reserves are in untapped areas. Unlike trees, they cannot be grown.

[biggestal99]

@Samm

No I didn’t read it. There is a pay wall.

All large mineral reserves are in untapped areas. Unlike trees, they cannot be grown.

From the article.

“The Boundary Waters, a vast landscape of protected lakes and forests along the border with Canada, provide habitat for thousands of species, including the gray wolf and Canada lynx. But mining companies have long expressed interest in the area, because beneath the surface lies an estimated four billion tons of copper and nickel ore.”

4,000,000,000 tons of copper and nickel ore.

Yeah let’s just give it to a Chile billionaire because he rented a house to the presidents daughter.

Biden did the right thing shutting it down.

Allan

[e7alr]

@biggestal99

@Samm

Sweetheart deal? Have you got any concept of how many millions, often billions, of dollars that a mining company dumps into developing a new mineral deposit before they recoup even one dollar in revenue? And then once production begins, how many millions of dollars per year they spend operating the mine? Virtually all of that money goes into the US economy.

Did you read the article, the lease was for an untapped region of Minnesota chock full of minerals.

Why let Chile have it?

Allan

Are you really this simple minded? The minerals would be sold on the world market. All of the operating costs would be spent in the US, supporting the US economy. The mining company would need a US registered and licensed subsidiary here. And the minerals would have to be transported from the mine to the end user Now we are talking rail, with associated costs, again spent in the US. And if the end user is a US facility, more economic activity in a US location will occur. The profit from all this that finally ends up in the bank account of the Chilean company is but a sliver of the total cash flow of the operation.