Why does the U.S get stuck with ALL of the blame for slavery?

[altair1013]

@vaard

So not a single example you have shown… from ceasar to an american indian… has been an example of anyone who has fought to maintain slavery like the confederacy did…

Did you know that they are all long dead? Maybe we should dig them up and put them on trial? I feel absolutely no guilt. And I should not. There is a lot of guilt that dead people around the world can share… Bit that has nothing to do with anybody who is alive right now. The quicker we stop using slavery as an excuse for everything, the better.

[Cratic3947]

@vaard

@Cratic3947

@CanadianJudo

@Cratic3947

mohawk indian, massachusetts route 2, the mohawk trai

did that woman rage war on America? what was her name.

Not a woman…“mohawk indian, massachusetts route 2, the mohawk trail”

And yes, The Cherry Valley massacre

So not a single example you have shown… from ceasar to an american indian… has been an example of anyone who has fought to maintain slavery like the confederacy did…

Every-time the Indians or the Romans fought a war it was to keep their power and slaves. And to expand their ability to take more slaves.

We on the other hand had people who believed slavery was wrong.

The people of Venezuela are not slaves too… Just like NK. Slave are common in socialism too.

[Cratic3947]

@Cratic3947

@vaard

@Cratic3947

@CanadianJudo

@Cratic3947

mohawk indian, massachusetts route 2, the mohawk trai

did that woman rage war on America? what was her name.

Not a woman…“mohawk indian, massachusetts route 2, the mohawk trail”

And yes, The Cherry Valley massacre

So not a single example you have shown… from ceasar to an american indian… has been an example of anyone who has fought to maintain slavery like the confederacy did…

Every-time the Indians or the Romans fought a war it was to keep their power and slaves. And to expand their ability to take more slaves.

We on the other hand had people who believed slavery was wrong.

The people of Venezuela are not slaves too… Just like NK. Slave are common in socialism too.

The people of Venezuela are now slaves too

[Samm]

@CanadianJudo

Are africans in the uk decdents of slaves?

Many of them, yes. For example, there are many blacks from the British Caribbean colonies who now live in the UK. I expect that many can trace their ancestry to slaves in other British controlled countries as well … including the British American colonies.

[Samm]

@adroit

@altair1013

@CanadianJudo

Why do American citizen forces on the hardship of Slaves during the history of America…

I couldn’t tell you.

That is an answer to a question that wasn’t asked. Try this one on for size. Why do you think that the U.S. gets all the blame for slavery?

It doesn’t get all the blame for slavery. It gets all the blame for US slavery.

Next.

I would bet that the vast majority of people do not know that only about 5% of the African slave trade was to the British Colonies/US. That ignorance by default, places most of the blame on the US.

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[Bodecea]

@altair1013

The sale of African slaves began with Portugal. How much blame does Portugal get? You guessed it. None.

The Dutch, The Portuguese, The Spanish, The U.K, The French and others all brought their slaves to the New world. But for some odd reason, their slave heritage has been completely white washed and fingers are pointed only at the U.S. Why? A mere 80 years after we kicked the last of those countries out, we fought a war that liberated the slaves and cost 600,000 American lives. We are the only ones who fought a brutal war of liberation. The emancipation was signed in 1863. The U.K. freed their slaves just 30 years before we did. And France just 15 years before us.

The Netherlands freed their slaves in 1863. The same year the U.S. did.

Portugal in 1869

Cuba in 1886

Brazil 1888

Several African countries continued to hold slaves well into the 1900’s. And there are many other slave countries not listed. We are the only country who paid for our sins in blood. 2 percent of our population died in the fight and the slave holding states were obliterated.

So Yes. We ARE a great country. The greatest that the world has ever seen.

It doesn’t…the colonial slave trade started with the Spanish and Portuguese and the English and French REALLY took the ball and ran with it. We just inherited it.

[Samm]

@CanadianJudo

well why would Americans blame the British or French or Dutch for American slavery?

What makes you think this thread is just about American sourced blame?

[Samm]

@altair1013

@PurpnGold

American guilt lol

Should there be European guilt lol?

Yes. Not only did the major European countries engage in the slave trade from Africa to the Americas, many slaves were imported into Europe from Africa.

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[Samm]

@CanadianJudo

so the Portuguese are responsible for the 3/5th compromise?

Playing stupid does not become you.

You do realize, don’t you, that the 3/5 compromise was to prevent the Southern (slave) States from taking control of Congress. In other words, it was a good thing.

[WuWei]

@CanadianJudo

So your saying American slaves should have felt grateful?

You’re out of your depth.

[PurpnGold]

Wrong, it was to help the southern states. The more the population the more house reps… equal more control.

[Samm]

@WuWei

@MidwestIndy

Only uppity , rich, white guys drink scotch, we both know that.

William Wallace drank whiskey you ignorant wretch.

If he was typical of men of his day, he drank anything he could get his hands on.

[Samm]

@CanadianJudo

I grew up in Canada, I wasn’t taught that Slavery was all America fault, for the record we barely were taught anything about American history because it isn’t important to my basic knowledge of Canada.

How naïve of your education system. The history of the US and Canada are deeply intertwined.

[WuWei]

@vaard

So not a single example you have shown… from ceasar to an american indian… has been an example of anyone who has fought to maintain slavery like the confederacy did…

Actually the Cherokee fought with the Confederacy.

[WuWei]

The country wasn’t major industrialized then.

[Samm]

@CanadianJudo

I did educate myself on it when I want to public school, we where taught about British slavery in the Colonies the sugar plantation were brutal, America was the only place in which slaves death rate was lower then birth-rate.

Are you suggesting that Africans brought to the US as slaves should have been grateful that they did not end up in one of the other European colonies? That kind of thinking is going to get you excommunicated from the liberal brotherhood.

[Samm]

@CanadianJudo

So your saying American slaves should have felt grateful?

Ironic, considering you made the same implication.

[Samm]

@WuWei

@CanadianJudo

So your saying American slaves should have felt grateful?

You’re out of your depth.

Quite the opposite, if you think about it.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

Wrong, it was to help the southern states. The more the population the more house reps… equal more control.

No it wasn’t. The south wanted to count all of the slaves as part of their population and thus gain the power that would bring them in Congress. The northern states did not want slaves counted (for representation in Congress) at all. The compromise was to get the south to join the union. Had that not been done, the south would have refused to join and they would have become a separate nation … one in which slavery was enshrined in their Constitution. Who knows how long it would have taken for them to abandon slavery. (And who knows what effect the creation of that hypothetical country would have had on the outcomes of the many major wars we have been engaged in since 1789 … including the War of 1812.)

[mbus]

@altair1013

So Yes. We ARE a great country. The greatest that the world has ever seen.

I would reply that each country, like each person, has to take responsibility for one’s actions. If others don’t, I’m okay with that.

To the more complex issue of America’s greatness. Yes, undoubtedly the USA is exceptional in many ways, ways for which I am forever grateful. Many of those ways are self-made and self determined. Many ways are the result of coincidence or fate, if you will: one language, one religion, non-Catholic, non-Hindu (smaller families = smaller work force), vast natural resources, waterways, harbors, a friendly neighbor to the north (in recent history) passive to the south (in recent history), great protective bodies of water on each side.

Personally, I don’t need America to be great and certainly don’t need other peoples to see it as such. I lean on the side of gratitude rather than pride. But when we misbehave, we must be able to see that and say it too. We can’t let our love of nation blind us.