I understand. There was no rising up of the people in Atlas Shrugged. There was a decoupling.
Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: TheDoctorIsIn:The idea that the “middle class” should be thankful to the ultra-rich for employing them is particularly problematic.
It’s just Atlas Shrugged fan fic at this point.
You should read it.
I have.
Of course you have.
Honestly… the only work of fiction that Ayn Rand ever wrote that anyone needs to read is “Anthem”
It isn’t a bad sci fi story and all of her other works riff off of that.
It has the benefit of being short and not a bloated screed like Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead.
“Capitalism the unknown Ideal” is interesting but exposes the moral vapidness of Objectvism.
Her ideas about art are hilarious.
I wonder how many of Ms. Rand’s here are aware of her views on religion?
I am. I wonder what difference you think it makes in this context?
No, 40 years of observation and asking questions provides me evidence of what the other side believes.
That’s only a small part of your worldview. A lot of it comes from emotions.
I take you at face value, but I also understand that none of your politics are based on anything but emotion.
I would call this purely projection on your part, but I recognize that emotion has a lot to do with ideology and worldview in everyone.
I understand reductionism very well.
I would expect so, since you use it so often.
That’s only a small part of your worldview. A lot of it comes from emotions.
All of it comes from emotions. The difference between us is I recognize that fact.
I would expect so, since you use it so often.
I’d like to see what you consider to be an example of this claim please.
I understand. There was no rising up of the people in Atlas Shrugged. There was a decoupling.
Of course. A rebellious decoupling that showed all those “takers” and bureaucrats how much they needed all those manly producers.
As I said. Fantasy.
mobiusptc:If only. GM just proved it.
Government doesn’t give health insurance or coverage or care for most peopleMedicare, Medicaid: government was the largest provider even before ACA, but why let reality interfere with a.going out for a good spin?
I think at least count both medicaid cover collectively had just under 1/3? With over half of the total population being covered by private but I could be slightly off.
WuWei:I understand. There was no rising up of the people in Atlas Shrugged. There was a decoupling.
Of course. A rebellious decoupling that showed all those “takers” and bureaucrats how much they needed all those manly producers.
As I said. Fantasy.
You’re crawfishing. Do you deny that some are visionaries, but most are not?
What keeps the producers among us?
Do you know who Charles Goodnight was and what he did?
Why just liberal politicians?
Don’t liberal politicians always make the claim that the wealthy don’t do enough or pay their fair share?
I’d like to see what you consider to be an example of this claim please.
Here’s a good example:
In the obama admin launching an investigation regarding candidate Trump using foreign assets and overseas activities while a member of that admin is the front runner
And
The trump admin launching an investigation into candidate Biden using foreign assets and overseas activities?
The idea that the “middle class” should be thankful to the ultra-rich for employing them is particularly problematic.
Nowhere did I use or imply the word thankful.
WuWei:I’d like to see what you consider to be an example of this claim please.
Here’s a good example:
In the obama admin launching an investigation regarding candidate Trump using foreign assets and overseas activities while a member of that admin is the front runner
And
The trump admin launching an investigation into candidate Biden using foreign assets and overseas activities?
Is it? What is reductionist about that question?
H_Arendt: Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: TheDoctorIsIn:The idea that the “middle class” should be thankful to the ultra-rich for employing them is particularly problematic.
It’s just Atlas Shrugged fan fic at this point.
You should read it.
I have.
Of course you have.
Honestly… the only work of fiction that Ayn Rand ever wrote that anyone needs to read is “Anthem”
It isn’t a bad sci fi story and all of her other works riff off of that.
It has the benefit of being short and not a bloated screed like Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead.
“Capitalism the unknown Ideal” is interesting but exposes the moral vapidness of Objectvism.
Her ideas about art are hilarious.
I wonder how many of Ms. Rand’s here are aware of her views on religion?
I am. I wonder what difference you think it makes in this context?
I think a philosopher should be taken as a whole: rather than picking segments that support one’s preferences.
What I truly find hilarious in Atlas Shrugged" is Rand’s view of innovation – as flowing form an individual who then names products and company after himself. Nobody innovates in that fashion in the Information Age.
TheDoctorIsIn:The idea that the “middle class” should be thankful to the ultra-rich for employing them is particularly problematic.
Nowhere did I use or imply the word thankful.
He knows that, he’s invoking emotions.
I wonder how many of Ms. Rand’s here are aware of her views on religion?
Or how she became enthralled by a real-life American serial killer, William Edward Hickman, which inspired her novels.
Of course there are visionaries.
But visionaries don’t exist in a vacuum. They are not ubermenchen. We are not honored by the presence, and owe them no worship.
Do you know who Charles Goodnight was and what he did?
He was a cattle guy. That’s all I know.
Everything.
You reduce the comparison between the two situations to the aspects that they have in common, and ignore the far more relevant differences between them.
They’re just better people than we are and we should worship them.
Personally I wouldn’t advocate worshipping any human being. Would you have rather I reworded it “who would rather worship, this group or liberal politicians?”
I think a philosopher should be taken as a whole: rather than picking segments that support one’s preferences.
So you await perfection. Which philosopher do you prefer?
What I truly find hilarious in Atlas Shrugged" is Rand’s view of innovation – as flowing form an individual who then names products and company after himself. Nobody innovates in that fashion in the Information Age.
No? Ford Motor Company? When was Atlas Shrugged written? You didn’t get the message either. Which of the characters did anything alone? Which one was different than Steve Jobs?
It was implied.
Everything.
You reduce the comparison between the two situations to the aspects that they have in common, and ignore the far more relevant differences between them.
I asked for the difference. Read what you wrote again. Think about the word reductionism.