Where does it end?

[Blackwolf]

Thank you for answering.

[JayJay]

@Plasmaball

Yeah people cant handle the fact these women can play the social media game like trump …

Let me tell you the results of two sides yelling at each other based on my experience with local politics.

People get sick of it…it becomes background noise, or worse, makes the person unlikable…and then they hold their nose and vote for whomever they believe (believe being the operative word) will make their lives better.

People who are horrified at Trump’s tweets and actions will nonetheless vote for him if they think that he’s doing a good job otherwise, and if they think the policies of the people they might have had sympathy for but are now also sick of hearing scream and shout will hurt them.

You don’t beat Trump sinking to Trump’s level.

You beat him by changing the subject while he’s ranting and raving.

Omar has some big dislike factors in groups of all political stripes. Her “some people did some things (on 9/11)” quote pissed off a LOT of people of all political stripes. She keeps calling attention to herself by calling for Trump’s impeachment or yelling when Trump yells? Those dislike factors will weigh large.

Trump isn’t going to stand down, but there’s little to be gained by going toe to toe with him. You might end up tuning a LOT of people out you need to win.

[WuWei]

@Excast

If we are being honest with where the escalation ends, it will likely be one of two ways.

1. Blood.

2. Trump’s base dying off and being replaced by more sensible younger voters less prone to right wing brainwashing.

You (collective) are not more “sensible”. You (collective) just think you are. There is nothing “sensible” about most of the policies you (collective) advocate.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@GWH

Both parties have progressed us to this level of vitriol. Blaming Trump, the reaction, denies rhetoric from both sides that has gotten us here.

The vitriol has always been there, yes. But to deny Donald’s particular contribution is myopic. He weaponized it, put it on steroids, and dropped any pretense of diplomacy and civility in using it to empower and enrich himself. And he continues to throw gasoline on the fire. To fail to acknowledge his unique, political-gravity-defying contribution to this mess is to engage in eleventy-dimensional denialism.

Did he start this? No, he’s not nearly intelligent enough.
Does the left do it too? Of course.
Will things get worse under his reign? You betcha.

You (collective) make it personal and then complain when it gets personal back.

[Plasmaball]

I dont see them sinking to trump’s level.sorry…

She does have some issues. I’ll give you that

[GWH]

To continue the bad marriage analogy, I’d say he’s Lorena Bobbitt. We’ve really gotten tired of this marriage.

[JayJay]

@Plasmaball

I dont see them sinking to trump’s level.sorry…

She does have some issues. I’ll give you that

From your point of view. The “rigtheous” always think they take up the weapons of the “unrighteous” for a more noble cause.

I’m telling you the practical effect on the electorate.

[Blackwolf]

@WuWei

You (collective) make it personal and then complain when it gets personal back.

Did you (collective) make it personal during the 2016 GOP primary? Was Donald simply counterpunching there, too?

[GWH]

Why the shot at the end? That’s the exact opposite of what you proclaim with your post. It’s why I say neither side will back down.

[Hexenbiest]

@mike_c_56

ing a great time. Trying to make many friends “just in case”.

It’s what they are running on, you can take Mr. Rogers and have him get up there and raise his hand to free healthcare for illegals he is going to possibly pay for it in swing states. I am looking for the democratic candidate that calls out the rest on the lunacy of open borders, decriminalizing borders, free healthcare too illegals, and reparations. It’s this woke mentality that has pushed a lot of people away from the party.

It’s the “White Knights” hurting the democratic party.

((Whites are ever so slightly less likely than average to believe that political correctness is a problem in the country: 79 percent of them share this sentiment. Instead, it is Asians (82 percent), Hispanics (87 percent), and American Indians (88 percent) who are most likely to oppose political correctness. As one 40-year-old American Indian in Oklahoma said in his focus group, according to the report:

It seems like everyday you wake up something has changed … Do you say Jew? Or Jewish? Is it a black guy? African-American? … You are on your toes because you never know what to say. So political correctness in that sense is scary.))

Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture

[Plasmaball]

From my point of view trolls are gonna troll regardless of what you respond with.

[Mountain_Soldier]

@AZslim

Lets say that in response to trump, the dems elect and support a far right lefty who is even nastier than trump about name calling, divisiveness and shuts down everything trump did out of spite and uses the power of the presidency to push an even farther leftist agenda than we have ever seen.

The reps in turn do the same thing, etc, etc.

Where does it all end?

A far right lefty. Even blaming the left on the right. Jesus ■■■■■■■ Christ.

[Plasmaball]

That shot wasnt directed at you. It’s what I see. I call it pivot trolling, or being a lawyer.

I wont back down ever. I’ve watched the right play their games for 2 decades now. Politics didnt exist before 2001 for me…I didn’t care.

I’ve learned a lot in my time. One thing I’ve taken away from life is people dont like the truth. They want to live in a bed of lies.

I’ve been fored for being honest. I’ve lost friends and family for being honest as well.

I want an honest fight. Not one full of lying and cheating…skewed facts and such.

When someone rejects the moderate answer to an issue they are a problem. Left or right.

[Mountain_Soldier]

@Munimula1

Which one of the dem potential nominees strikes you as being “nastier than Trump”?

It will end when we elect a civil person as POTUS, and any/all of the potential democratic nominees will be civil.

No, it won’t end then. It will be full bore liberalism just like Obama and people will be pissed off.

[Mountain_Soldier]

@Excast

@GWH

See. This side is perfect.

My side is not perfect, but we have not spent decades crafting our own version of reality to such a point that we were able to convince ourselves Donald ■■■■■■■ Trump was a sensible choice for President of the United States.

Obama did that just fine.

[Mountain_Soldier]

@Excast

@GWH

But you have convinced yourselves that Hillary was? Okie dokie.

Yes, an infinitely better choice than Trump. Do you think she would have encouraged a crowd to spew racist venom? Do you think she would have openly admitted to caging toddlers for weeks on end as a deterrence? Do you think she would be dragging our nation’s reputation through the mud by playing footsie with Kim and Putin? Do you think we would be discussing the reality that the only reason she wasn’t being indicted was the fact she was President?

I know none of these points matter because Trumpists have talked themselves into the “just as bad” argument and “both sides” is their favorite tactic in order to ignore the bad choices they have made, but it’s just nonsense.

Mr. Hillary Clinton and Albright played footsie with Kim’s dad. Or did you forget their raising a glass of champagne together?

[Mountain_Soldier]

@Plasmaball

That shot wasnt directed at you. It’s what I see. I call it pivot trolling, or being a lawyer.

I wont back down ever. I’ve watched the right play their games for 2 decades now. Politics didnt exist before 2001 for me…I didn’t care.

I’ve learned a lot in my time. One thing I’ve taken away from life is people dont like the truth. They want to live in a bed of lies.

I’ve been fored for being honest. I’ve lost friends and family for being honest as well.

I want an honest fight. Not one full of lying and cheating…skewed facts and such.

When someone rejects the moderate answer to an issue they are a problem. Left or right.

You seem to not be a moderate at all.

[zantax]

@Oryx

The Obama and Trump administrations have convinced me that democracy is dying. There are too many people (both politicians and voters) willing to exploit the weaknesses of the system for power, and modern tech/social media has given those people undue influence.

This system wasn’t designed for a central government with a population of 330 million people. It was designed to be a local system of government with small populations.

[Plasmaball]

You want to know where I stand on something ask.

[Mountain_Soldier]

@Plasmaball

You want to know where I stand on something ask.

You said you won’t back down ever. How does that relate to moderation at all? You don’t give an inch, and expect everyone to capitulate to your demands in the name of moderation.

It doesn’t make sense.