What to do about Stupid Police?

Having more applications doesn’t always coorelate to better candidates if the structure remains broken

Perfect example of a multi-tiered justice system

They say experience is the best teacher. I dont know if it is or not, but most often it is the costliest.

I am of the opinion that all these cases of mis-conduct should be magnified so other officers learn from them.

When I first watched the video, I didnt fully read the title, so I didnt know there was a train accident. I thought it was stupid for the officer to stop on the tracks, but adrenalin and target fixation will cause people to do things without realizing it. I was expecting the officer to move the car off the tracks as soon as she put the woman in there. But it looks like they were all in a hurry to search the car so they could be the officer to find the gun and left it there.

I hope other officers will hear about this and learn from it. I also think these type of events ought to be discussed at roll call and part of their continuing education.

It isn’t definitive but the laws of probability change in favor of getting a better candidate with more choices to choose from. That’s just common business sense.

But if the fbi and other portions of the government exercising its authority can be vilified but not the police?

But that’s neither here nor there your entire post is ludicrous. The democrats run the cities. The police departments are repeatedly accused of acting outside training and procedural codes set by city and state. The city or state then tries to say well let’s disband and start fresh. Screaming from you guys ensues

I am not sure what you mean by sporadic vilifications? Sporadic means rare. That may actually be a solution. Only vilifying rarely and when appropriate seems like a good way to keep getting the best people tp join the force. Though i have no idea what best means.

Common business sense includes proper hiring and training practices…….

Volume of candidates only dictates volume of candidates nothing else nothing more.

…increases the probability of being able to choose a better one. If they never applied because the pay didn’t meet their requirements for the personal responsibilities in their lives, you never had a chance at them in the first place.

That’s about $40 million in lawyer fees. Lawyers don’t represent plaintiffs for free. It’s a big business just ask Ben Crump

I understand. It is contextual. If McDonalds offered $30 an hour, they would attract more highly educated people. They would also attract way more poorly educated because being a fast food line cook is unappealing even at that rate. Being a cop is a stressful job and while it attracts more that put it off due to the lack of income, giving a pay raise without qualifiers would atttact more bad than good cops imo.

Give these raises to cops with good track records and reward good behavior. A ten year, clean record cop should earn a lot more than they do now.

That is $40 million in taxpayer money going to lawyers to get redress for violation of civil rights.

It isn’t like this is a new thing. The 2004 mass arrests during GOP national convention cost the city $18 million and it had the stipulation of not holding the NYPD responsible for sweeping up entire blocks of people and detaining them in a disused bus depot on a pier on the Hudson for a couple of days without adequate access to basic sanitation.

But yeah… don’t dare talk about cutting their budget a cent.

Well NYC did cut the police budget $321 million in 2021. They wanted to slash it $477 million. I dunno, if you’re a NYC resident are you happy with the police protection you’re getting?

The NYPD budget is over $10 billion.

The budget cuts that happened in fiscal year 2021 were moving the budget for police stationed in schools from the NYPD to the Dept of Ed.

The cuts were basically a lateral move.

Sporadic means intermittently. You mean Democrat states and Democrat cities won’t get rid of police unions or reduce their power don’t you? Maybe that’s part of the problem.
As to the incident in this case, that was brought up in this forum before, just because it is dumb and dumber stupid. That hopefully is not an example of normal police activity. The only way to reduce the chances of that is to at least raise salaries enough to rule out idiots.

The only way?

Police unions are pro police not pro elected democrats. They clash constantly. It’s pretty amazing how you are getting this so wrong again and again

Of course it is not normal police activity. That’s why sporadically noting this is important. To show that police aren’t perfect. That was what my snark was referencing f.

Which political party historically supports the power of unions always, when it makes sense and when it doesn’t. We’re you not understanding what I was saying or just pretending?

Who thinks police are perfect? Only people tend to riot when one of them messes up. Not so much when a doctor kills somebody.

The difference between my union and police unions is that if I kill someone on the job I am held accountable

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Thus the “when it makes sense and when it doesn’t”.

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I am unapologetically pro-union, yet I can freely admit the police unions have acquired too much power.

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Just the police unions?

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