What should the US do about Mexico's BRICS application?

PeterGriffin · 2023-04-04T14:49:02.321Z

Maybe punching down on all these countries wasn’t such a great idea after all.

Bill.in.PA · 2023-04-04T14:54:48.061Z

The relationship between Biden and China is complex.

I have wondered if China has a case of buyer’s remorse with the Biden family given some of the neocon rhetoric coming from the White House.

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On the other hand, deranged neocon policies are playing into the hands of China. The dollar-based financial system is rapidly losing its dominance; the center of world finance is moving from New York to Shanghai. Strong ties between China and Russia give China better access to Russian energy.

The message from the Biden administration has been our way or the highway.

The message from China has been let’s make a deal.

China is the biggest winner from Biden’s policies; Mexico’s BRICS application is the latest example. China’s investment appears to be paying off.

WuWei · 2023-04-04T15:01:51.251Z

“Punching down” is back!

Phrase of the day?

Gaius · 2023-04-04T15:03:46.791Z

WuWei:

“Punching down” is back!

Phrase of the day?

If one begins with the bigoted mindset “the USA is evil. I hate America”
It is natural to think in such terms.

WuWei · 2023-04-04T15:05:11.779Z

They hate this 'murca.

They want their America

PeterGriffin · 2023-04-04T15:09:03.282Z

Grand Jury Chooses to Indict Trump

Isn’t Alvin Liberty coming up on statutes of limitations?

WuWei:

“Punching down” is back!

Phrase of the day?

It’s never left as the MO for the GOP.

WuWei · 2023-04-04T15:10:08.902Z

I’m above Alvin Liberty? Why thank you!

WuWei · 2023-04-04T15:11:43.390Z

You realize of course “America” will have to be renamed…

WuWei · 2023-04-04T15:12:48.454Z

I’m in the wrong thread!

Gaius · 2023-04-04T15:16:11.616Z

WuWei:

You realize of course “America” will have to be renamed…

Yes. Some of them have chosen the name “Aztlán”
We stole it from the Spanish
who stole it from the Aztecs
Who stole it from the others.

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bigtwnvin · 2023-04-04T15:21:55.030Z

Nemesis:

Mexico is a Sovereign nation and can decide its own future.

So is the US, yet Mexico has facilitated the illegal invasion of millions into America.
Mexico could give a ■■■■ about America’s sovereignty why should we?

PeterGriffin · 2023-04-04T15:26:26.138Z

Gaius:

Yes. Some of them have chosen the name “Aztlán”

“some”, as in a handful.

Since I can’t post links, the SPLC that never covers left wing extremism (it just seems like that because it’s comparatively rare) has an extensive article of the tiny group out of Chicago that espouses this belief.

If it weren’t for certain quarters amplifying this, nobody would never hear of it and still nobody does.

Nah, we would just like a United States (“America” already includes North, Central and South) that strives to meet it’s ideals but certainly updated from the Founders vision of a United States built on the policy preferences of the political elite of the late 1700’s.

The Consitution is failing. A 4 page document that spells almost nothing out and dumps it all on the courts with wildly uneven applications across the country isn’t cutting any longer. Take the good points, ditch the anachronisms and make it a more appropriate governing document for a diverse country of 330 million people.

Gaius · 2023-04-04T15:30:28.791Z

PeterGriffin:

If it weren’t for certain quarters amplifying this

This much is true

PeterGriffin · 2023-04-04T15:35:40.300Z

Gaius:

This much is true

Generally it’s extremist sites that like to pretend Aztlan is a thing, and they’re not from the left.

sCaRy Aztlan takeover! It’s gibberish that gets repeated like it’s a thing.

Gaius · 2023-04-04T15:37:23.857Z

PeterGriffin:

It’s gibberish that gets repeated like it’s a thing.

Same must be said for America “punching down” every country that has less money than America.

Nemesis · 2023-04-04T15:38:08.251Z

Sigh and for once I thought a sensible discussion was going to be had.

PeterGriffin · 2023-04-04T15:40:23.574Z

Gaius:

Same must be said for America “punching down” every country that has less money than America.

No, Republicans punching down is part of their identify politics. Never punch up, always down on the weirdos and the freaks and the ones who look different.

Gaius · 2023-04-04T15:47:42.486Z

Mexico has a large over-bearing interventionist government.
As in all such cases, Mexico is poor.

The liberal response is to bad0mouth America and try to make us more like Mexico.
Like little rebellious teenagers who never grew up.

PeterGriffin · 2023-04-04T15:52:47.008Z

That sounds like an analysis from a teenager.

Cratic3947 · 2023-04-04T15:56:25.619Z

WE could stop the neo-colonialism like bombing LIbya during Obama etc…

We need Trump back to negotiate. Biden’s hacks are a disaster…