What should be the next response to the next virus be?

Let me point out @Smyrna in case you are not aware that Sky News Australia is owned by Murdoch. Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones two of the Sky News employees featured are climate change deniers and their opinions should be taken with a grain of salt. The third is Graham Richardson who was a right of centre power broker and member of the ALP governments in the 1980s and 1990s. He knows which side of his bread is buttered on.

I agree as long as we agree that both China and the WHO are fully responsible and that President Trump has every reason to hold them accountable?

Going forward, Iā€™d like examined why China didnā€™t fully admit their evidence supporting person to person transmission until January 21st and the WHO on the 22nd and yet China was purchasing mass levels of medical protective gear, like masks and gloves in December and prior in January?

This needs to be examined on multiple levels for many reasons.

I said that in the post to which you responded.

But of courseā€¦you knew that, as you deliberately excised it out of your response.

If thereā€™s something in their article that isnā€™t credible, support your assertion with your evidenceā€¦as they did? Thatā€™s fairā€¦isnā€™t it?

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Per se, neither Bolt nor Jones are credible period.

ā€¦and you?

That wasnā€™t very effective in the years between WWII and the first Bush administration.
Trying to ignore that the most populous country in the world wonā€™t work.

To those who say ā€œbut if all countries did itā€, ā€¦ Right. Russia and the EU and India and Chinaā€™s client states are all going to follow our lead in regards to China, just like they did with Iraq and Iran andā€¦

Iā€™m with you 100 percent. :+1: :grin:

:+1: :grinning:

Until we take our government back from corporate interestsā€¦none of this will ever happen.

Corporations, and shareholder value is what runs the economy, and our government.

Until we make that seismic changeā€¦the bottom line, will continue to be the bottom line.

But that would take democratizing the economy. Sadly, too many people will see that as socialism,and will defend the current flawed and faulty system, that put us here in the 1st place.

I agree that corporations have too much influence on our government but that isnā€™t the answer. The answer is in who we vote for. You may say, Iā€™m a dreamerā€¦but your post says, Iā€™m not the only one. :sunglasses:

And unions are just the ticket!

Okā€¦which party/ideology is trying to reduce corporate influence, and what party/ideology is trying to protect, and expand corporate influence?

All one has to do, is look at a handful of SCOTUS decisions to find the answer.

FYI, I will fully concede from about 1990, til about 2016ā€¦there was not a big difference in the parties, relating to this issue.

Until the interests of the people, is primarily controlled by the peopleā€¦there will be very little change.

Unions can be part of the solution.

How would you know?

I again agree. The first giant step IMO towards accomplishing where we find ourselves in agreementā€¦is term limits.

Thereā€™s still notā€¦

Do you believe one has to personally experience something, to be able to form an opinion?

Reading, studying, talking to others, is pointless?

Term limits will do nothing, if we do not address how to limit the power the wealthy and corporations have over the systemā€¦including the election process.

If elections were fair, where the battle of ideas were discussed, and money was not the dominant factor, term limits would happen naturally.

Uh no. I could not become vegetarian. Now these people eating that weird ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  there is no way I would go that far