WAR in Ukraine, Putin approves initiation of special military operation (Part 3)

Germany and Japan were the adversaries. We were not fighting to free them. And as for the rest of Europe, our troops were invited to stay to help protect them, and they are not there to control how those countries are governed, not even in Germany or Japan.

The US made multiple assurances that NATO would not exploit the reunification of Germany and end of the Warsaw Pact by expanding eastward. Here is an excerpt:

Not once, but three times, Baker tried out the “not one inch eastward” formula with Gorbachev in the February 9, 1990, meeting. He agreed with Gorbachev’s statement in response to the assurances that “NATO expansion is unacceptable.” Baker assured Gorbachev that “neither the President nor I intend to extract any unilateral advantages from the processes that are taking place,” and that the Americans understood that “not only for the Soviet Union but for other European countries as well it is important to have guarantees that if the United States keeps its presence in Germany within the framework of NATO, not an inch of NATO’s present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction.” (See Document 6)

The treaty that reunified Germany explicitly states that NATO forces cannot be deployed in what had been East Germany. The US still abides by that agreement, but it has ignored the assurances involving countries to the east.

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(3) Following the completion of the withdrawal of the Soviet armed forces from the territory of the present German Democratic Republic and of Berlin, units of German armed forces assigned to military alliance structures in the same way as those in the rest of German territory may also be stationed in that part of Germany, but without nuclear weapon carriers. This does not apply to conventional weapon systems which may have other capabilities in addition to conventional ones but which in that part of Germany are equipped for a conventional role and designated only for such. Foreign armed forces and nuclear weapons or their carriers will not be stationed in that part of Germany or deployed there.
Treaty on the Final Settlement with respect to Germany (Moscow, 12 September 1990) - CVCE Website

you will have no problem attaching the signed agreement that says so.

what… say you can’t find it? LOL

There was not, is not and never has been any such agreement.

And if it ain’t on paper, it doesn’t matter anyway.

I heard the conversation went like this…

What? Go east? fuggetaboutit. We don’t need that ■■■■ on paper. If we put it on the paper we gotta go to NATO, we gotta get 100% approval. It’s nevah gonna happen. Look, you got me, you got fawtyone… what more do you need? Sign the ■■■■■■■ paper!

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I always imagined them discussing things with a terrible Die Antwerd South African accent. That’s just funny to me.

Rubio is a shell of a man at this point. Like, what are you even doing my man???

Rubio on Russia’s war on Ukraine: “Nothing is going to happen until President Trump sits across the table from Vladimir Putin and puts it on the line, and puts it on the table. I think that’s the only chance we have at peace at this point.”

Since the end of the Cold War, the US has treated signed agreements with Russia like signed agreements with the American Indians in the 19th century–they can be ignored with impunity.

What exactly did we sign with Russia besides the START treaties (that have been good for both sides) and the conventional forces reduction treaty (that we both broke the ■■■■ out of)?

They have agreed to prisoner swap.

Wonder what kind of condition all the POWs are in? Russia has a history of not caring for POWs it captured at all and I wouldn’t be surprised if Ukraine was rough on Russian POWs out of idea of vengeance.

You go comrade! :+1:

The only remaining US-Russia arms control agreement expires in February.

Bush announced the withdrawal from the ABM treaty in 2001. Trump announced the withdrawal from the INF Treaty in 2018 and the Open Skies Treaty in 2020. There have no real efforts from Washington to revive these any of the agreements.


https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/us-russian-nuclear-arms-control-agreements-glance

A basic problem for the US is that Russia has taken a huge lead in missile technology since the end of the treaties. The development of accurate hypersonic missiles means that Russia and destroy NATO forces in Europe and minuteman silos in North Dakota without nuclear weapons. In addition, Russia is far ahead in anti-missile and air-defense technology. The US is far behind in these areas and is stuck with technology from the 1980s.


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The US abandoned arms control, while at the same time, it has defaulted in the resulting arms race.

It literally doesn’t matter because us and the Russians can’t go to war in the first place. MAD is still a thing and neither of our countries is ran by suicidal lunatics.

You seem to not understand the most lethal leg of the Triad, SSBNs

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And mama Trident D5 don’t play no ■■■■■ 8 400kt warheads full of anger for anyone stupid enough to try it.

The Air Force is also developing an air launched hypersonic. You see a mention of it every once and a while. The old Buffs are already missile trucks for Tomahawks, imagine them with standoff hypersonic missiles and 100kt warheads. Launch point Northern Canada going over the pole.

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The assumption is that US subs can escape detection and cannot be hit by Russian missiles. That may not be a good assumption.

Russia has been rapidly expanding and improving its nuclear submarine fleet, anti-submarine missiles, and detection technology.


https://news.usni.org/2025/01/02/russia-commissions-fifth-yasen-nuclear-attack-sub

According the Military Summary channel, Russian advances are accelerating, and there is evidence that Russian troops have established a beachhead on the west side of the Dnieper River. Here are some recent headlines:

Meanwhile mainstream media have generally ignored the battlefield completely as shown in the BBC stories below. The silence is a tacit admission that the BBC has no good news to report about the front lines.

Military summary channel… LOL, that’s funny.