WAR in Ukraine, Putin approves initiation of special military operation (Part 2)

That doesn’t make any sense. Who was disenfranchised? The republics that separated? They had elections. They have elected leaders.

They did not get to participate in the Ukrainian elections … for some strange reason :joy:

The banning of pro Russian parties in a country invaded by Russia! Oh no!

No that means we lose freedom everytime we have a war. Is that the strategic reason the liberal Neocons are in Ukraine? WW3 would allow them the ultimate power grabs?

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This is why you take casualty numbers with a grain of salt.

“Ukraine has demoted a top battlefield commander after he admitted his unit had been decimated.”

“He revealed that all of the original 500 soldiers in his unit had either been killed or injured, a rare acknowledgement from inside the Ukrainian ranks, where losses are kept strictly confidential.”

“The Ukrainian high command is at pains to present a positive spin on the increasingly bloody defence of the east of the country. US officials have estimated that the Ukrainian army may have taken 120,000 casualties compared with 200,000 by the Russian army.

Kupol told the Washington Post this week that the Ukrainian army training was often poor and that some of the rookie replacements didn’t know how to throw a hand grenade or fire a rifle.

Others had abandoned their positions shortly after arriving at the front line, he said.”

Stellar save :joy:

Desperate conditions of conscripts.

Not unusual. And the Russians are likely suffering from the same problem.

A country goes into a war with its best trained troops; aka peacetime troops who had extended training intervals and got the chance to participate in practice maneuvers.

As the war continues a country is forced to accelerate training regimes or even cut pieces of it entirely to get replacements into the field quickly as casualties mount. The expectation is that the green conscripts will “learn on the job” from more experienced soldiers and NCOs.

The Wehrmacht is the perfect example of this phenomenon. Pre-WWII training of Heer personnel was usually 13-17 weeks of basic, plus 6 months more of advanced training.

By 1943 the basic training was reduced to about 6 weeks and advanced training typically happened in action or at best at the battalion level in a rest and refit area.

That’s just how these things go.

If by slow you mean glacial then yes. Russians have made incremental gains there in the past 6 months while still not capturing a fairly insignificant town. This is a far cry from the spring and early summer last year where Russia was capturing much of the South and East through non-stop artillery bombardment.

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We should strap Graham to the drone … He ought to have skin in the game,

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The status of each indictment is indicated in your link.

Great idea! He’s never seen a war he didn’t want us involved in.

not the same thing. And good on him. Russia is there enemy that invaded them.

He’s closed some Russian Orthodox churched run by former KGB agents that were handing out anti Ukranian propaganda. Good on him, they are at war

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It’s not like the Russian Orthodox Church isn’t currently a propaganda tool in Russia currently or anything…

in the east they were firing 60K rounds per day. they are down to about 15K on a good day. they had a 9-1 advantage in artillery, down to 4/5-1, and in rounds fired less than 2-1. which is basic parity for Ukraine given tactics.

in the south it really wasn’t about artillery, they took what they took because of 2 treasonous Ukranian generals

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Okay.
Opening position

  • Russia removes all troops from Ukraine including Crimea
  • NATO establishes as 200 mile DMZ inside Russia patrolled by NATO peacekeeping forces including aircraft
  • Russia pays $1 million USD to every man woman and child in the Ukraine
  • Russia dismantles all its WMDs and allows inspectors to verify
  • Russia permanently loses it position on UN Security council
  • 36 months after doing this, the West begins a process to slowly lift sanctions

Wonder what that cost US.

Must suck to be Russia right about now.

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Lake NATO. That’s funny.

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Slovakia . . .
Because they know about Sudetenland and “Re-unifiying with the people who speak out own language” and stuff
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Serious choke points
Ice-free access to the Atlantic is getting to be a pretty hard thing for Russia.
Maybe we should just start considering them a Pacific country or something.

Also, maybe they could behave themselves and get acess back

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