You forgot about their Barents Sea access.
Gaius: Supreme_War_Pig:Lake NATO. Thatâs funny.
Serious choke points
Ice-free access to the Atlantic is getting to be a pretty hard thing for Russia.
Maybe we should just start considering them a Pacific country or something.You forgot about their Barents Sea access.
Yeah and Kalingrad
But I really donât consider Barents warm water. Doesnât it get icy?
Yes, but itâs seasonal ice and Russia has a fleet of large, capable icebreakers.
Also, maybe they could behave themselves and get acess back
There we go.
Their icebreakers are the only civilian nuclear powered vessels in the world.
Doesnât it get icy?
Not anymoreâŚdidnât you hear? The ice is gone now.
Gaius:Doesnât it get icy?
Not anymoreâŚdidnât you hear? The ice is gone now.
Thatâs what I was thinking. The ice is all gone and the polar bears drowned at this point right?
Or is Gore wrong yet again?!!
Their icebreakers are the only civilian nuclear powered vessels in the world.
âCivilianâ is greatly overstating it. They were built and are owned by the government, but they were operated by the civilian Murmansk Shipping Co. until 2008. They are now operated by the State-owned Atomflot company. They employ civilians to run them, but the ships are State owned and controlled.
So, you believe that people of Russian descent should be punished by Zelenskiy because they are Russian? What else should happen to these people?
punished? Never said any such thing.
So, you believe that people of Russian descent should be punished by Zelenskiy because they are Russian? What else should happen to these people?
Zelensky clearly doesnât believe in freedom of religion or speech.
Oldandtired:So, you believe that people of Russian descent should be punished by Zelenskiy because they are Russian? What else should happen to these people?
Zelensky clearly doesnât believe in freedom of religion or speech.
During a war.
Specifically a war for national survival.
Oldandtired:So, you believe that people of Russian descent should be punished by Zelenskiy because they are Russian? What else should happen to these people?
Zelensky clearly doesnât believe in freedom of religion or speech.
âLoose lips sink shipsâ ⌠and give away troop deployments.
gooddad409: Oldandtired:So, you believe that people of Russian descent should be punished by Zelenskiy because they are Russian? What else should happen to these people?
Zelensky clearly doesnât believe in freedom of religion or speech.
âLoose lips sink shipsâ ⌠and give away troop deployments.
Meaning what? Shutting down the churches doesnât stop people from talking among themselves. Word gets around regardless.
I donât respect Putin or Zelensky myself.
zalensky didnât shut down âchurchesâ he shut down KGB agents masquerading as Russian orthodx priests while they distributed anti Ukranian propaganda and organized anti Ukranian activities. As he should have. It is no different than what would have happened here in 1942 if anyone was distributing Nazi propaganda and organizing Nazi rallies
gooddad409: Oldandtired:So, you believe that people of Russian descent should be punished by Zelenskiy because they are Russian? What else should happen to these people?
Zelensky clearly doesnât believe in freedom of religion or speech.
During a war.
When the citizens need it most.
Specifically a war for national survival.
Specifically when they need it even more.
Justified oppression.
Loose Japanese-Americans need cages?