WAR in Ukraine, Putin approves initiation of special military operation (Part 2)

nah, i actually did my homework. i read and listen to all stripes. some are propaganda, some ain’t. this guy ain’t.

That’s exactly what every victim of indoctrination says.

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wrong.

bradley’s. 3700 in permanent storage. we’re sending 91. we’re still paying to store the other 3601. we will never use them. strikers are being decommisioned. we will never use them. they are going into permanent storage. we had 4M artilery shells. we gave ukraine the oldest ones which would have been slated for destruction anyway. we still have 3M and the 1M will be replaced just as they would have been.

have we supplied some systems which we will have to replace? certainly. but nowhere near 196B. to date, aid actually delivered is less than 30B

watch the damned vid and get back to me. until then, i’m done. you have nothing to add here.

I’m not watching a gamer video.

I have this to add here:

America First™ :us:

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How is the forever war going. According to General Miley 100,000 dead on each side and 40,000 civilians dead, 14 million refugees, the destruction of the Ukraine good job all carry on.

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Good! Ukraine has staved off being conquered by Russia.

It’s not going good it’ has devolved into a war of attrition which means scores of people are going to die. They are already comparing it to the trench warfare of WW1 I never heard anyone describe that as a positive before.

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Seriously. If you are a Ukrainian? You just stopped your country from being conquered by people who are bombing, raping, torturing and murdering your people. How is that not a good thing?

Has the bombing stopped, has the killing stopped? It’s now a war of attrition, look that up it sucks. If they want to help the Ukrainian people especially the millions that are refugees that would press both sides for a peace deal. Until then they are trying more people killed.

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Well a poster asked how the war was going and so far it has exceeded all expectations. Ukraine has stopped Russia from conquering their country, driven Russia out of half the land they occupied and kept them to a 15 percent sliver of Ukraine in the South. That’s frankly astonishing.

At this point Ukraine is doing all it can to stop wave after wave of poorly equipped Russians from trying to regain Ukraine’s land, killing on average 1000 Russian soldiers a day. Ukraine hopes to retake more conquered land as an influx of tanks and artillery are supplied to them.

War is awful. But I think you’d agree that if a nation was trying to conquer the US, most of us would be willing to lose millions of lives to stop that from happening.

At some point a peace agreement will have to be made, likely by the end of this year. But at this point Ukraine is understandably fighting for its sovereignty.

That’s not what General Miley is saying. I would take his words over anything Russian and Ukraine propaganda can produce they are both are going to lie about numbers.

They’re destroying the beautiful country which seems to be ok with some rather than to even try a peace settlement.

This is what the poor citizens of Ukraine have to deal with while the we play arm chair general.

Out of a prewar population of 80,000, a few thousand residents remain. They rarely see daylight because they spend most of their time in basements sheltering from the ferocious fighting around and above them. The city constantly shudders to the muffled sound of explosions, the whizzing of mortars and a constant soundtrack of artillery. Anywhere is a potential target.

How is this going well this is the situation on the front.

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Yeah no doubt it’s awful. But Ukrainians are fighting for their very survival.

Precisely…why?

Cool…I found a source that agrees with me.

What? At a discount? Seriously?

Trillion dollars later…

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try listenning. perun is not a propagandist. dismissing his analysus without hearing it is sot of… low information. he does a weelky vid, and is very thorough. good or bad for either side.

to delay delivery.

no trillion has been spent. to date, less than 30B delivered

Ok if you say so.

I have no problem sending them 100’s M1 tanks…if EU pays for it up front.

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