just listen to yourself.
Steel-W0LF:CEO’s report to someone.
So does the President.
We, the people.
Then no information is classified because it all belongs to us.
Did they lied to court in the past…yes or no?
as for those documents…they should have notified Trump that they’re sending 2 FBI agents to retrieve em. 2 agents…that’s all they needed. And they wouldn’t even have to be armed.
They didn’t lie in court about this matter and they can send as many agents as they see fit. And LOL that law enforcement should not be armed.
It was Garland that made spectacle out of it to satisfy their angry left-wing base…and YOU know it. If not you’re dumber then I thought.
Garland kept this whole drama under wraps for months. We knew nothing of a subpoena sent in June. We knew nothing of the subpoena for the security camera footage. We knew nothing about for most of Monday until Trump informed the world it was happening.
When Trump was informed but he Archives that he had material he was not supposed to have, the rational action was to turn it over to the Archives. He didn’t and here we are.
And one other thing…all presidential documents/papers needs to be National Archived. No exceptions.
This was nothing but political theater and abuse of power.
There…now you know what I really think…any questions?
It does need to be archived. Trump was, for whatever reason but I am sure that it is insane, keeping that from happening.
Getting a search warrant was the final step in a series of very many steps to try to politely retrieve these records.
PurpnGold: Steel-W0LF: PurpnGold: Steel-W0LF: JimmyC:I’m talking about now. He is no longer President and is not entitled to the physical documents.
If I own a company, see a tool that I like, and go “I think I’ll take that home…”.
If I later sell the business, the new owner can claim that the tool didn’t belong to me since I never told an underling I was taking it home?
Trump doesn’t own data. He owns classification of said data.
Might want to look under which offices authority the records archives operate.
Trump does not own the data. This is not one of his companies. All information generated by the government belongs to the government. He is just the ultimate classification authority for said data. Which makes sense because he was the commander in chief
He’s also in charge of said records department and set their policy.
EO 13526
That is what says what the responsibility of the records department is and what it’s responsibility is for classification. Did Trump write another EO changing it?
Steel-W0LF: JimmyC:I’m talking about now. He is no longer President and is not entitled to the physical documents.
If I own a company, see a tool that I like, and go “I think I’ll take that home…”.
If I later sell the business, the new owner can claim that the tool didn’t belong to me since I never told an underling I was taking it home?
just listen to yourself.
Yeah it sounds really stupid when I repeat what you guys are saying with different actors doesn’t it?
Jezcoe: conan:So ■■■■■■■ what.
Judges and law enforcement gets threats every single day.
Man… what a difference a month makes.
Right? Holy moley
indeed.
I know “some” libs want at least 1 of em dead before libs lose the senate this fall. To me that is greatest terrorist threat ATM.
Meanwhile radical Californian lib democrat attempts to violent change SCOTUS court. This lib extremist was arrested in Maryland after making threats against Kavanaugh. I hope secret service doubles their protection against democrat terrorist…Lord know CoJ and FBI aren’t going to protect em.
JimmyC:I’m talking about now. He is no longer President and is not entitled to the physical documents.
If I own a company, see a tool that I like, and go “I think I’ll take that home…”.
If I later sell the business, the new owner can claim that the tool didn’t belong to me since I never told an underling I was taking it home?
The government isn’t a business and the President…. Even while in office… does not own what is held in trust to the people of the United States
Then no information is classified because it all belongs to us.
No - even keeping this analogy afloat, that’s not accurate at all.
For example, I own single shares of stock in a number of large corporations - and yet, I do not have access to their corporate documents.
Steel-W0LF:CEO’s report to someone.
So does the President.
We, the people.
applause
Does this really need to be explained?
Steel-W0LF:Then no information is classified because it all belongs to us.
No - even keeping this analogy afloat, that’s not accurate at all.
For example, I own single shares of stock in a number of large corporations - and yet, I do not have access to their corporate documents.
And I bet the CEO doesn’t check in with you before taking things home either does he?
TheDoctorIsIn: Steel-W0LF:Then no information is classified because it all belongs to us.
No - even keeping this analogy afloat, that’s not accurate at all.
For example, I own single shares of stock in a number of large corporations - and yet, I do not have access to their corporate documents.
And I bet the CEO doesn’t check in with you before taking things home either does he?
I am now convinced that you are pulling our leg.
And I bet the CEO doesn’t check in with you before taking things home either does he?
You are misunderstanding the issue.
While Trump was President, there was nothing stopping from taking documents “home” with him.
But he’s not the President anymore - and those documents don’t belong to him.
Steel-W0LF: TheDoctorIsIn: Steel-W0LF:Then no information is classified because it all belongs to us.
No - even keeping this analogy afloat, that’s not accurate at all.
For example, I own single shares of stock in a number of large corporations - and yet, I do not have access to their corporate documents.
And I bet the CEO doesn’t check in with you before taking things home either does he?
I am now convinced that you are pulling our leg.
or just spinning wildly to distance the conversation from that actual events.
Steel-W0LF:And I bet the CEO doesn’t check in with you before taking things home either does he?
You are misunderstanding the issue.
While Trump was President, there was nothing stopping from taking documents “home” with him.
But he’s not the President anymore - and those documents don’t belong to him.
and they are still classified.
Steel-W0LF: PurpnGold: Steel-W0LF: PurpnGold: Steel-W0LF: JimmyC:I’m talking about now. He is no longer President and is not entitled to the physical documents.
If I own a company, see a tool that I like, and go “I think I’ll take that home…”.
If I later sell the business, the new owner can claim that the tool didn’t belong to me since I never told an underling I was taking it home?
Trump doesn’t own data. He owns classification of said data.
Might want to look under which offices authority the records archives operate.
Trump does not own the data. This is not one of his companies. All information generated by the government belongs to the government. He is just the ultimate classification authority for said data. Which makes sense because he was the commander in chief
He’s also in charge of said records department and set their policy.
EO 13526
That is what says what the responsibility of the records department is and what it’s responsibility is for classification. Did Trump write another EO changing it?
Isn’t ignoring previous admins EOs all the rage?
Or is it only wrong when trump does it, and not when Biden does it with immigration policy? Goose and gander and all that.
Yeah. You are pulling our leg
He let it get to him and abused his office.
He has to answer for it.
Nobody is above the law.
Answer for what?
The big question now is will the trump team object to the unsealing of the warrant.
After all the MAGA belly aching yesterday about the warrant, will he actually allow it to be released?
RTchoke:He was correct. The Archivist does not decide what is and isn’t classified material.
That’s not exactly true - the Archivist (and many, many other government officials) do decide what is and is not classified, based on standing executive orders.
It is true that while he was President, Trump had the authority to declassify anything he wanted to.
Then show me Executive Order # that gives the Archivist this authority.