Trump denies hurricane killed 3k in puerto rico

[WildRose]

@adroit

@WildRose

I don’t know nor do I care since neither causation nor blame are being asserted as to how and why they died.

No, I’m saying the baseline. You don’t think based on 7 years of detailed data an expected mortality rate can’t be established? I guess actuaries are a scam? Someone tell the insurance companies…

Actuaries consider all the factors in their projections.

[DougBH]

@PurpnGold

No one can… you did no such analysts.

My question is even if you found that they counted differently, why is the scrutiny on this disaster, but not on others? What about this disaster make cons want to challenge numbers?

Don’t you mean why is it that there would be concerted efforts to find new ways to calculate deaths, including statistical correlation over time lines, that were never used in say, Sandy?

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

Trump is a pretty honest adult. Why are we doubting his words?

[reflechissez]

@Roxiebelle

Amen to that. Obama is the worst President this country has ever had with his stuttering uh, uh, uh, and his self centered, me, me, me, I, I, I and that lisp of his where all his words end in a hissing sound.

You are so right. It is sooooo much better to have a bulbous, orange self-centered president who always sounds like he’s snorting cocaine in between his words.

[reflechissez]

@adroit

@WildRose

I don’t know nor do I care since neither causation nor blame are being asserted as to how and why they died.

No, I’m saying the baseline. You don’t think based on 7 years of detailed data an expected mortality rate can’t be established? I guess actuaries are a scam? Someone tell the insurance companies…

Maybe you haven’t been studying mortality stats for the last 20 years like some people have.

[DOLOOP]

@reflechissez

@adroit

@WildRose

I don’t know nor do I care since neither causation nor blame are being asserted as to how and why they died.

No, I’m saying the baseline. You don’t think based on 7 years of detailed data an expected mortality rate can’t be established? I guess actuaries are a scam? Someone tell the insurance companies…

Maybe you haven’t been studying mortality stats for the last 20 years like some people have.

Hiroshima had about 100,000 instances of excess mortality between the previous years and August of 1945.

Hard to say what could have caused it without knowing the cause of death in each individual instance, though.

Baffling.

Maybe science will one day understand, but not yet. I have my hopes.

[WildRose]

@DOLOOP

@reflechissez

@adroit

@WildRose

I don’t know nor do I care since neither causation nor blame are being asserted as to how and why they died.

No, I’m saying the baseline. You don’t think based on 7 years of detailed data an expected mortality rate can’t be established? I guess actuaries are a scam? Someone tell the insurance companies…

Maybe you haven’t been studying mortality stats for the last 20 years like some people have.

Hiroshima had about 100,000 instances of excess mortality between the previous years and August of 1945.

Hard to say what could have caused it without knowing the cause of death in each individual instance, though.

Baffling.

Maybe science will one day understand, but not yet. I have my hopes.

Radiation exposure was specifically identified as the cause of death in those cases.

[reflechissez]

@DOLOOP

@reflechissez

@adroit

@WildRose

I don’t know nor do I care since neither causation nor blame are being asserted as to how and why they died.

No, I’m saying the baseline. You don’t think based on 7 years of detailed data an expected mortality rate can’t be established? I guess actuaries are a scam? Someone tell the insurance companies…

Maybe you haven’t been studying mortality stats for the last 20 years like some people have.

Hiroshima had about 100,000 instances of excess mortality between the previous years and August of 1945.

Hard to say what could have caused it without knowing the cause of death in each individual instance, though.

Baffling.

Maybe science will one day understand, but not yet. I have my hopes.

It’s disappointing. You’d think they’d have better data by now.

[Bodecea]

@moonshine

todays tweet
3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000…

we have a so called president out of touch with reality. i think he may be senile
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1040217897703026689

They died from paper towel neglect.

[Bodecea]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@moonshine

todays tweet
3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000…

we have a so called president out of touch with reality. i think he may be senile
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1040217897703026689

If he is using the same metric that has been used in measuring deaths from every other hurricane in American history, he is correct.

The problem is low information and low education on the part of Trump haters.

Feel free to show us that a different metric was used in this case.

[Bodecea]

@armycowboy

The reaction by Trump here, basically a child’s temper tantrum, is one of the reasons his approval rating is rapidly eroding. People are waking up to the fact that we have a petulant child as our POTUS and they’re not liking it.

Petulant child like their petulant child in the WH.

[MidwestIndy]

Yeah who knew spending a bunch of cash, running trillion dollar deficits, ballon the national debt even faster than Obama, and keeping wages flat when adjusted for inflation would produce marginally increased GDP and more jobs.

Probably ought to question what happened to half the electorates insistence that we cut spending and reduce deceits. The GOP house would never allow Obama do do what they have with Trump. Now you’ve got the trifecta.

What do you suppose is gonna happen when it comes time to pay the piper, cause guess what? The mythical trickle down isnt going to account for it.

In fact the same crisis we suffered in the last depression on the back of consumer lending is now going forth in an even more exaggerated manner with corporate lending as companies expand with loans a lot of them based on hope rather than real demand, leading to all this hiring. Hopefully you see what is coming. Probably be even worse this time, but we shall see.

[Bodecea]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@dantes

What purpose does comparing these two serve?

To see if your highly politicized numbers pass the sanity check. They don’t.

No way in hell did a cat 5 on Puerto Rico in 2017 kill 20 times more people than the cat 5 on Puerto Rico in 1928, even accounting for the doubling of population over that time.

Sure it does…centers of population…reliance today on electricity vs then…reliance today on decent plumbing, running water, etc. vs then…and then have that all taken away.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Bodecea

@Call_me_Ishmael

@moonshine

todays tweet
3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000…

we have a so called president out of touch with reality. i think he may be senile
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1040217897703026689

If he is using the same metric that has been used in measuring deaths from every other hurricane in American history, he is correct.

The problem is low information and low education on the part of Trump haters.

Feel free to show us that a different metric was used in this case.

Not hard to do. The fact that it is not obvious to you says you really dont understand… and that I would be wasting my time if I even added one sentence to prove my point. My post is for those who still have free will, an innate curiosity, and an ability to analyze.

You need not pay any attention.

[Bodecea]

@zantax

@armycowboy

He “criticizes” Trump enough to give himself an out after Trump gets voted out of office and is judged harshly by history. He’ll be on here claiming he never supported him.

Uh huh, just like I never admit I voted for George Bush right? Yes, I voted for Trump, but I never supported him, he was the lesser of two evils at the time. And if I was going to hide it because people think poorly of him, I would already be doing it.

“I voted for trump, but I never supported him”…Whaaaaaaaa?

[Bodecea]

@Konssurvative1

There was a sharp increase in deaths in the 6 months after Maria. Increase over normal expected rate. Meaning 3000 deaths may be accurate…but not directly cause by Maria…but by disease and conditions after Maria.

I truly hate to think about the diseases after Florence with all those pig poop lagoons overflowing into the water system.

[Bodecea]

@LucyLou

@CaughtInTheMiddle

he’s always been the same dude. there is audio and video and lawsuits going back decades.

I know that, but so what? Ive also seen him be charming and funny.

I can’t blame people for detesting Hillary. I detest her. I would have voted for several of those Republicans over her.

Belittling people for their vote is not cool.

^ guilty…

[Cynic]

Unless the death certificate says “death by Hurricane” it doesn’t count!

[WildRose]

Unless you can show a death occurs as a result of the hurricane it doesn’t count.

[Bodecea]

@Sknyluv

It’s pretty hilarious watching people trying to parse the words of a complete ■■■■■■■ moron.

Oh. And sad. It’s super sad and depressing.

What does that make them, then?