This is what you're using a against Trump? Are you people crazy?

Free college except those like me who worked hard to pay off those loans early. I recognize the logic: If I had instead simply paid the minimum and used that extra money for other debt, my net debt will be lower if my loans are forgiven. Some people see that as insufferable to stomach the realization of and thus do not want a policy that will help everyone, including themselves since they can go back to school for free too.

It will leave a bad taste in my mouth that I chose to pay off my school loans instead of my car, but I can’t really be so upset about it that I want every other generation after me to suffer. I promised to pay a certain amount and I did, fair is fair. I hope no else after me has to pay it again.

I get that, but it’s kind of bonkers to only accept policies that wouldn’t have been nice to have in the past.

Nope. If they wanted to get even for Clinton they would have tried to impeach W. Bush.

Who’s saying there will be two separate plans? Of the proposals there’s Medicare for All, which is for all… and Obamacare where the congress currently has to buy from the marketplace.

Wrong “B” sorry.

It will be of poor quality and could offer an underhanded way to deny care to the most elderly citizens like the UK does.

Not a chance.

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And rather spiteful. They would have paid all that debt if the policy isn’t passed.

Trump’s border wall when completed might be used to keep Americans locked in our country so he can exterminate those he doesn’t like.

Not a chance.

See, I can make ■■■■ up too!

Who say’s there wont be? Unless somebody steps up and says every American gets the exact same plan as congress then, there will be two plans. Are any of the candidates willing to provide you with a 100 percent free doctor provided by the tax payer? Are they offering free doctor visits at any miltary base in the world?

Who’s saying there will be who is actually proposing or in favor of universal healthcare? I can’t prove a negative.

Then here’s a positive:

## Office of the Attending Physician Services

Services offered by the Office of the Attending Physician include physicals and routine examinations, on-site X-rays and lab work, physical therapy and referrals to medical specialists from military hospitals and private medical practices. According to congressional budget records, the office is staffed by at least four Navy doctors as well as at least a dozen medical and X-ray technicians, nurses and a pharmacist.

Sources said when specialists are needed, they are brought to the Capitol, often at no charge to members of Congress.

Are any of the candidates offering this to you?

And that’s the problem. Most democrats don’t agree with the items that I listed. But they will be voting for them anyway. It’s a really strange situation.

So can the telegraph…

Fewer than one third of patients who met criteria set by the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (Nice) underwent a total hip replacement, between 2011 and 2015, according to the University of Liverpool.

Some 114,1119 suffered hip fractures during the period but 77,601 did not receive the recommended surgery.

Hospitals are denying patients operations based on age, weight and mobility, even though the watchdog says everyone should have the operation unless they have cognitive impairments, cannot go under anaesthetic, or have such severe walking problems they cannot get around without using a stick.

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Interesting. I wonder when the last time any member of congress was denied any treatment what so ever. And the libs STILL insist that everyone will be treated equally under liberal socialized medicine. Fantasy land.

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They pay extra for that:

“Congress employs an Attending Physician, who is assisted by a medical staff. The physician is traditionally an officer in the U.S. Navy. The Attending Physician’s office provides on-site health services to Members of Congress, the Supreme Court, staff members, official visitors and the tens of thousands of tourists coming to the U.S. Capitol each year. Lawmakers may receive non-emergency care, but they pay an annual fee for this. The Office of the Attending Physician was created in 1928, in response to the realization that medical care for Congress was inadequate. In December of that year, three Representatives suffered medical emergencies – one fatal – but hours passed before doctors arrived. Keep in mind that the Attending Physician’s office also responds to medical emergencies for tourists and other guests in the U.S. Capitol Building.”

Not all proposals for universal healthcare outlaw additional paid for services and should someone in congress want to push a universal healthcare plan you can contact your congressional rep and let them know that you don’t want Congress to have access to the Attending Physician Services because it upsets you.

This isn’t the UK.

It’s almost as if we live in a capitalist society where the wealthy and elite are given better service over the poor underclass. This isn’t because they are members of Congress, its because they are the elite and rich.

Good Lord. You still believe that? Congress gets no special treatment? Believe what ever fairy tale you choose.

So you’re claiming that’s a lie and they don’t pay extra for it?

I believe Congress gets special treatment, yes… but I don’t believe they are conspiring to make a special elite healthcare service for themselves while creating low quality universal healthcare for everyone else. You’re making assumptions about a bill that barely exists.

The rich also get better cars, better homes, vacations, first class air travel and everything else. That’s why capitalism is so amazing. It allows people to go where ever their skill, effort and intelligence takes them. Remember this social justice point?

Demanding that people who have no skills and have done nothing to prepare for life get paid the same as those of you who did prepare.

Should a world class heart surgeon who spent 20 years studying be paid a similar wage to an unskilled, high school dropout working at Walmart? Who do you think should get to decide? The feds?