This Is Antifa-interesting

Disrupt and dismantle. There’s no ideology there.

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Anarchy

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That is their tactics, not their objective. It is like calling a group using terrorism, as their tactics, terrorists, instead of exposing the ideological/political objective they are seeking to implement.

No, the useful fool element of the group may believe that, but those giving them their targets want a change of power, not to abolish all power structures.

Yeah, libs don’t Evan want to make any sense. They just want to control you through any means necessary

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Says who?

They don’t have an objective other than dismantling. There is no rebuilding. Crits believe utopia is hidden within the existing system. That the golden nugget will reveal itself once the current system (liberalism) is destroyed.

It’s straight alchemy.

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True. And they believe they won’t turn into oppressors because the “right people” will be in charge. Better people.

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Hear! Hear! Well said. Well said indeed! :+1: :clap: :clap: :clap:

It is classic Marxist insurgency tactics. I learned it in my CI support to counter-insurgency block in the mid 80s. I then taught it in the early 90s during my instructor tour of duty.

The “right” people, implementing a Marxist economic model through the police power of the state. Of course, the fact that it always leads to violent repression of the individual and establishment of “The Animal Farm” doesn’t bother these elite “right” people.

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Socialism in all its forms is an ideological cesspool.

Some folks like to swim about in the deepest, dankest, foulest parts and think those not in deep with them are traitors to the movement … that’s the communists.

Others once emerged from the deeps carrying a few cherished turds and started trying to get the landlords owning the land the cesspool occupied to help them enact those … that’s the fascist.

And others still decorated the perimeter of the cesspool with expensive tiles, beach furniture and plants and held a pool party where they spend their time polishing turds taken from the cesspool and frolicking in the shallows of it … they’re the Democratic Socialists.

Then there are those who dug trenches extending the cesspool into any institution within reach … that’s the Cultural Marxist.

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Way to paint a vivid visual and olfactory image of the movement. It brings to mind the concept of taking pieces of dog crap, coating them in varnish, painting them a pretty color, applying a pleasant perfume, then placing them in pretty boxes with bows. Then displaying them and selling them to the public as a wonderful thing to have. Yet in the end they are just pieces of animal waste.

So because you were taught the tactic, you assume it is true in all cases. Okay, who are these people who are pulling the strings and what change of power are they intending after their tools (ANIFA) tear down the system?

They attacked Washington during Obama’s inauguration. They hate both sides.

That’s what I said. Anarchy.

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No it is not that simplistic. We studied the strategy of insurgency employed by the world’s Marxists. That study included all of it’s tactics and levels. When I went through the course we were engaged in counter-insurgency operations in Central America, South America, Africa, Asia, Europe and here at home. Some of these insurgencies were in the earliest phases, while others had evolved into full out heavy combat between the insurgent forces and the targeted nation’s law enforcement and armed forces. The US was a harder nut to crack when sowing the seeds of a Marxist insurgency. The values of the nation have to be subverted. A significant segment of the population has to be convinced that they are victims, that the nation’s power structure has stolen from them and is intentionally holding them down, that Marxism is the solution and overthrowing the system is the only way to achieve a just society.

Here in the US that meant infiltration of institutions, establishment of open front organizations under our freedoms and recruitment of violent underground elements in parallel. The long term target for creating conflict was and is the minority communities, especially those identified as African American. I remember when the USSR fell from within and a simplistic view set in that the conflict was over and we won. Well all we had won was a campaign against one Marxist power center, the struggle was, and is, far from over.

If you want to know who, begin with SDS membership of the 60s and 70s here on US colleges. Subversion of education, media and government entities over time (long game) through staffing of organizations and allowing sympathizers to rise to positions of power. The seeds (indoctrinated youth) of the 60s and 70s ) ooccupy power positions through out our society. They are now working on building the 3d generation here in the states. From there simply look at the message. The connecting thread is capitalism is bad and Marxism is good, “justice” through redistribution is needed and (US specific) to oppose this is to be racist.

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Just acting like the Weather Underground in the 70s and 80s. You have to have an armed wing of the movement in parallel. The impatient, emotional ones are need to create incidents, in hope of provoking the established government into an over reaction to be exploited.

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Nicely done.

This was my world for a long time. And the Groups were right there with us.