The Politics Forum and What Makes a Good Political Thread

Be patient. Did I address your whole post now?

Off topic question for a sec: is Fever Dreams in reference to something or a pun?

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What are you classifying as micromanagement?

This is a good point. What is the backstory behind why the category is titled “Fever Dreams”?

  1. Why is insulting to whom?

  2. Casual political forum? Allows for trolling? Go to Facebook. This has an owner and a name attached to it.

Good grief man. You’ve been around these parts for a long time. You’ve been around political forums for a long time. Having people insult the POTUS in the 2nd and 4th and 10th and 15th post is just part of the territory. It was this way with W. Bush on these forums. It was this way with Obama on these forums. It has been this way with Trump on these forums.

Until now. Now it’s being micromanaged and deemed unacceptable. The first 16 years it was fine. But not now. Now reference in political discussions to the President and Chief Politician of the country is only allowed when subjectively the moderator accepts it. When they subjectively decide not to accept it, then it’s trolling. Okay. Clear as mud.

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None. Why do you want a guarantee?

One more off-topic (but not off-forum) post, and I’ll shut up. In the past, I have noticed that my intuition and desire for objective justice are assets to my moderating. However, I think I am often too “hot-headed” to really lead anything.

I mean, I don’t usually go out searching to be mean to people, but if they attack me, I seem to think it is open season. I also tend to hold strong opinions on one topic, almost to the extent of entitlement. That topic being abortion. I know I need to work on this. It’s not easy, but it needs to be done.

It’s what happens when people’s minds go wild on a topic rather than asserting factual discussion. Aka fake news.

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This is the crux of it isn’t it? Our host has attached himself to Trump, and you can’t have too many anti-Trump posts on this forum. It was never an issue before with Bush, or Obama, but all of a sudden, it’s an issue with Trump.

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I didn’t know I had an OP to drag anywhere. I thought that was an opening post – one per thread. As pointed out in your OP point 2.

Still, what’s the incentive to have a good OP if they’re going to be sent to Fever Dreams?

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There is a systemic bias in the moderating team over what is deemed on-topic, trolling, and fake news.

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If the President stopped acting like a fourth grader there would be less dumb thread on this website.

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No, not insult the POTUS. I don’t care about that. The “Biden gonna hurt God” thread is a perfectly legit thread. Good OP.

Falwell’s zipper and Graham etc, are the drag down. It’s the oneupmanship. Then “they’re bad Christians” “How can a Christians want weapons of war”. Now we’re in the gutter and completely off topic. And insulting 60 million people, some of whom are members here.

It never ends because there’s no self control.

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And if that’s what it is, but we can’t say that’s what it is, I’d understand thats what it is.

Someone blink twice if thats what it is.

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No. I’m not talking about the Macy’s windows. We were directly warned about mentioning the Trump charity case. Which was an integral part of the discussion. @hwyflier even started a CF thread asking why his post to Conan was moved, when it was topical, relevant, furthered the discussion. The only explanation was it was “trolling” because it mentioned Trump. The same as your “mod note” in the thread.

Which was placed immediately after me and brouski had a back and forth about the Trump charity in relation to the NRA situation. No trolling there at all. But a reprimand for it nonetheless.

I never received a TO on the old board. I found restrictive less restricting.

This is what trolling and drama will also do in the long run. I have seen it too many times in other groups, in other forums. People find the drama entertaining for all but a second, and then when it keeps persisting, they leave. I actually had an argument about this last year with an admin of a Facebook group that I was moderator of. I said that drama is going to kill the group and she said “no, it draws people because people like drama.” And that’s where our rivalry- to put it mildly- started.

With that said, I’ll be damned if I’m going to let one of my favorite message boards go to the dumpster with the drama. No, I won’t allow it. Too many political discussion groups have already gone that route. We need to restore balance to the forums. Part of that is the moderators’ and administrators’ job, but part of that responsibility rests on the members’ shoulders too. It’s a lot easier to moderate a group when the members have a mutual understanding.

Well Anakin was supposed to bring balance to the force… how well did that work out for the universe?

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I don’t know; I haven’t watched Star Wars. I do know he went to the Dark side eventually.