The Official 2020 Presidential Election Thread

I don’t think Pennsylvania wanted to avoid it.

It will be interesting to see who turns against Trump and when. I figure that folks like Tom Cotton who live in safe districts or states will stay and perhaps even run on Trump-like policies. But here is Texas I fully expect Cornyn and Cruz to back off from him quick. Oh, and I thought Nikki Hayley was smarter then that.

How? I have never been able to figure out how you stop a conspiracy theory.

What Trump-like policies do you expect Cruz to back off of? At least on the main issues that interested me I found them very similar on the issues. That’s why my final choice in 2016 was down to Cruz or Trump. Most of Trump’s issues are not unique in the Republican party to Trump.

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By not changing election rules at the last minute. I used the word atypical for a reason.

I’m not sure. But I will throw some stuff out here. I think that both Cruz and Coryn were getting a ear-full from folks at the border who were ready to file lawsuits because they were about to lose much acres of land to build the wall. And I also think that the realization of all of the effects of the trade war with China might be a issue. The whole America First deal has hurt our relationships with a lot of countries and NATO. I think that there are Republicans who would like to see those relationships mended.
And I don’t believe that there is a Republican Congressman or Senator who was happy when Trump flipped them off when it came to oversight.

Ted Cruz* Build a wall instead of massive amnesty plan. (Dec 2015)

Oh no, our allies don’t like America first. Yet, I am sure their policy is their interests first. Just like any sane country.

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Georgia flipped to Biden just a few minutes ago.

Allan

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To address your concerns without going off into CT land.

State laws vary on when Election Officials can begin to process mail-in/drop box ballots. Some allow preprocessing (meaning they can do the security screenings which take the most time) prior to election day. Other states they can’t even start until election day. Then you have to have enough personnel (which in many cases includes volunteers - during a pandemic).

IN PA:
“Election workers can’t legally start pre-canvassing mail ballots — opening the envelopes, extracting the ballots, and placing them in a tabulation scanner — until 7 a.m. on Nov. 3. But nothing requires them to begin counting them that day, either.”

However due to staff limitation some places had to make a choice - run Election Day in-person voting OR begin counting mail-in ballots. Really they had not choice, they had to run in-person voting and couldn’t start the mail-in voting until the next day.

Biden encourage mail in voting to protect peoples lives so a large amount of his voters used mail-in ballots. Trump attacked mail-in voting, basically encouraging his people to vote in-person. That is why you are seeing such a high percentage (which are the results now coming in) breaking for Biden.

Hope that helps.
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This is what happens when you have large number of supporters refuse to read or listen to actual news vs right wing Media

For weeks /months states have been saying mail in votes will come later in the count. That many states would take days to report.

Multiple sources pointed out that with Trump supporters in key states going in person and those same states not counting Biden leaning mail in voters until election day, that there would be a red miarge. That it would look like Trump did well and then it would change.

Multiple states pointed out that because they wanted to be extra careful about ensuring no fraud, that mail in ballots would take longer then thought.

So then the election happens and plays out pretty much exactly as predicted for weeks and Trumpers think something is fishy because they WEREN’T PAYING ATTENTION!

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Bare Minimum Biden just put some pants on.

Good morning Georgia!!!

https://twitter.com/marcacaputo/status/1324677792789835776?s=21

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So Hillary did not request a recount. Cool.

I appreciate this post. I’ve been wondering how many would feel the it was “not worth it.”
The downside to his presidency for true conservatives is so large it’s hard to even measure.

You’re seeing the reaction to Trump in real time. It’s not a hug.

Biden: if I lose maybe it just says I’m a bad candidate

Trump: the only way I lose is if it is stolen from me.

^ now extrapolate this out to 70 million Americans.

I disagree with this. Trump’s “America First” is what got him elected. I wasn’t his policies that got him defeated it was his narcissism and being an awful person. You put a pretty face and other wise good human being as far a I know on his policies and your President in 2025 will be Nikki Haley.

In that same vane, Abigail Spanberger is my new favorite Democrat, but I fear most Dems won’t head her advice and the Dem will become a minority party really fast.

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If Trump has proof and evidence of voter fraud then he absolutely has to have his day in court.

However we all know there is no evidence and Contrary to what Trump supporters believe Trumps opinion and the opinion of his minions is not proof.