That’s fine. I may have dragged the argument towards legal immigrants but again what evidence do you have that illegal immigrants be they South American, Central American, European and Chinese come here mostly for the handouts. Or what percentage even. Anything to back up your feeling that they do
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article145518639.html
That’s just three I found. You also have groups like La Raza that say they are entitled to benefits since the US “stole” land from Mexico (Texas, California)
Then you have demands for interpreters for everything from getting a driver’s license to a job. But I’m sure none of that matters. After all, we’re forcing them to come here. Oh wait.
That’s just three you found that have nothing to do with people come here mostly for handouts. I understand your point. You don’t like illegal immigrants. It’s a valid point. You want a country with borders. You want a country where its citizens and those who are here legally are taken care of and that the bureaucracy (which you dont like either but must exist) takes care of its own. I GET IT.
It has nothing and I repeat nothing to do with your ridiculous assertion that most are coming here to get a handout.
What are you talking about? Are you insinuating the ONLY reason they’re coming is “for a handout?” I never made that claim.
It’s true there has always been an independent streak in Britain, and the migration angst mainly accelerated “legally” under Tony Blair which polling afterwords shown the British public weary of migration.
However Brexit would have never happened if it wasn’t for Merkel’s 2015 “Wir schaffen das” message to the Middle East and Africa. All the leave campaign had to do was show wave after wave (All young men) “illegally” marching into Europe.
What is wrong with 11-13
Le Pen’s party came in second place.
Greet Wilders freedom party came in second place, and in Norway the right wing populist party is in second place.
These results are only growing, that’s why Germany is terrified of having a new election there scared the AFD will gain more power. These are common talking points in Europe it’s not just me flinging them out.
Think about it left wing Sweden is about set to elect a right wing government in September. In any other reality people would be saying ■■■ or at the very least how did this happen.
Latest Yougov poll Sweden, SD (Sweden Democrats) calling for a EU referendum and the end of migration.
Sweden, YouGov poll:
SD-EFDD: 29% (+6)
S-S&D: 22% (-1)
M-EPP: 17% (-1)
V-LEFT: 9%
C-ALDE: 7% (-3)
L-ALDE: 4%
MP-G/EFA: 4%
KD-EPP: 3%
Fi-S&D: 1% (-1)
Europe and Nationalism have always worked out so well in the past.
who will invade Poland first!
There is evidence however that migrants are seeking countries with higher government handouts. There’s a reason during the European Migration the migrants were walking past Southern European countries heading to the Scandinavian countries who have generous safety nets.
Poland is the most nationalist country in the EU and furthest to the right.
clearly you didn’t get the joke.
And in the end the winner gets Berlin.
Well duh. They’ve been invaded like 100 times in the last 400 years. They’re paranoid psychopaths and I don’t blame them one bit.
I got the joke. It’s just a tad odd 79 years after WW2 Poland is the far right nation.
Nationalism comes and goes in Europe, maybe another massive war will correct their thinking.
I can’t remember the writer of the article but it was a good one describing why Poland and the rest of Central Europe arw in general more cautious about the migration and changes than Western Europe.
He argued that history had been forgotten by the West and that in countries like Poland history is closer to and they know how things can happen again at any moment and change everything.
I don’t see a big war breaking out but conflicts breaking out like the Bosnian war I can definitely see that happening. But I think we’re more likely to see the end of the EU.
EU would be stupid to imploded but everything end sooner or later.
Terms like “far right” “right wing” “populist” are willingly used by far left extreme (actually the entire left is fallen into extreme for a couple of years), in order to defame their political opponents and actually eveything that disagree with them. Slovakian government and President are left, but they are just as anti-migration as the so called “far right populists” from teh west, becasue that people didnt lose the common sense
“the sentiments of the west towards illegal immigration to the west” - everyone should be against illegal immigration and against mass immigration, legal and illegal. Thats shouldnt be an issue of the right wing, far right and so on. Its just common sense
which nations should fight eachother in Europe, according to your opinion?
right now, the nationalists agree with eachother and are united against the socialist thugs and traitors who want to destroy our beautiful continent
That criminal EU has to be wiped as soon as possible. That will not be the end of European cooperation. We have to turn back to EEC, we had for 40 yrs (from the 50s to the 90s) and worked very well. No parliament, no common currency, open borders optional.
