The Future of Our Glorious Party Is the -Cortez Woman


#163

Is health care a right or a privilege? If its a privilege, scrap the ACA and go back to how it was. If it’s a right scrap the ACA and go to single payer.


#164

no one plundered the world for 300 years

pull yourself away from the evil imperialist anti-American leftist nonsense and see whats really what

where did you learn this nonsense btw?

leftist lulu college professors?


#165

For me, it’s irrelevant whether it’s a “right” (I don’t care for the language of “rights”, it has lost its usefulness now that we’ve been detached from monarchical rule for over two centuries). What matters is if we would provide a better (i.e. more efficient, more effective, less expensive) system if we went the route of a single payer or something like the Dutch model. The answer is yes.


#166

explain “better results”


#167

Three call is for government funded health care. Tippy say yoh have it for $45 a month. Great, just open it up to the rest of the population. We will all pay $45 and the government will pay the rest. problem solved.

Except you and I both know if won’t ■■■■■■■ work.

Happy to do so. Also paying for my dad’s retirement as well. One of the benefit of retiring as an O-6


#168

Why would that happen? Other developed nations pay less per capita than we do. If we brought out expenditures down to levels like Netherlands, we’d almost be able to eliminate all private expenditures (i.e. premiums and out-of-pocket expenses) and maintain current levels of public spending (i.e. taxes).


#169

Universal coverage, better life expectancy, lower infant mortality rates, similar or better wait times, not going bankrupt due to medical expenses, etc.


#170

Are you joking?


#171

Of course it wouldn’t work for $45 a month. That’s why I originally said I’d be willing to pay more because it’s the right thing for the country.


#172

For-profit drug companies is such a terrible example to bring up noawadays, when we have insanely priced cancer drugs and an opioid epidemic. Did we invent the polio vaccine because of profit motivation? I guess some folks don’t understand that there are people out there working for the greater good.


#173

Well… can anything be too competitive?


#174

I would argue that it is a public good.


#176

That makes sense.


#177

universal coverage is not something that is “better” in and of itself.

better life expectancy is a product of many factors not just the health care infrastructure or health care availability.

infant mort is also highly influenced by other non-healthcare related factors, such as education level, environmental conditions, and even how “live births” are even counted in other countries.

“similar” wait times is not better. all countries have wait-times but using them to compare health care availability is of limited use due to differences in the way they are measured and data is collected.

overall “better” is highly debatable, not to mention subjective


#178

i was about to ask you the same thing

but then i realized you have no way to prove or support what you said beyond pure anti-american sentiment and opinion.


#179

To prove what? Colonialism enriched Europe and America at the expense of those indigenous populations and resources? Let’s not even cover slavery.
You’re definitely joking.


#180

thats not “plundering the world for 300 years”

earths history is filled with colonialism and plights of indigenous peoples back thousands of years


#181

Yes, it is. The early 1600s to the end of colonialism in the 1900s. You are correct. It has been happening for thousands of years, and typically the victor is enriched by the spoils of war.


#182

Own it. She is. And Cortez and Bernie Sanders are touring the country together, hand in hand, and promising to be the best free cheese candidates ever. Free government cheese for everyone, except those who produce the cheese.

JWK


The unavoidable truth is, the Bernie Sanders/Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.


#183

Most Democratic Socialist members believe that the Jews are to blame for their own demise in Germany. I think its a fair question that should be asked of Cortez, whats her stance on the Holocaust.