the thought police. precrime division.
Allan
the thought police. precrime division.
Allan
just more misinformation to obfuscate this travesty.
Allan
Red flag laws for one.
Person accused does not get to be there now does he? No due process for him and you pushed for it.
Red flag laws deem a person guilty before they even commit a crime. They don’t even get their day in court to plead their case. You all trashed the constitution with every red flag you passed and bragged about.
Red flag laws do not lock people up.
They can if you refuse to stand and deliver.
They can if you refuse to stand and deliver.
That’s a choice. Not the law.
WuWei:
They can if you refuse to stand and deliver.
That’s a choice. Not the law.
No, it’s in the laws.
If it’s been determined you are a threat to youself or others you have a choice to surrender arms or not.
If it’s been determined you are a threat to youself or others you have a choice to surrender arms or not.
Determined by whom?
DisturbedGuy:
If it’s been determined you are a threat to youself or others you have a choice to surrender arms or not.
Determined by whom?
The court through evidence provided. You get due process for the final decision. It’s not an equal comparison to what is being done to immigrants.
What laws lockup people before they commit a crime?
There are no such laws.
the thought police. precrime division.
Allan
No such thing exists.
You need to do some research.
Red flag laws deem a person guilty before they even commit a crime. They don’t even get their day in court to plead their case. You all trashed the constitution with every red flag you passed and bragged about.
Sure they do. A court orders the surrender of arms after evidence is presented from both sides.
It’s odd that many people here argue gun control in general is the first slippery slope step toward a general erosion of rights, and then they don’t care about the US government throwing people into prison without charging them or giving them a trial.
If you are really concerned about constitutional rights, you could be making this a ‘told you so’ moment…
Samson_Corwell:
Samm:
Samson_Corwell:
Samm:
Immorality is subjective.
In which Samm admits there is nothing actually wrong with murder, rape, child molestation, slavery, theft, and mutilation.
You have an amazing imagination. No matter how hard I try, cannot figure out how you extrapolated that conclusion from my absolute truism.
You don’t believe that those things are wrong, but you CAN’T believe those things are wrong if you think (im)morality is subjective.
Just stop. I never said anything about what I believe or don’t. You conjured all of that up with your over stimulated imagination. Morality is not uniform. It varies from era to era and from society to society from group to group. That makes it subjective.
“Beliefs about the shape of Earth changed from century to century, therefore the shape of Earth is subjective.”
Samson_Corwell:
peek-a-boo:
WuWei:
MS-13 is a US gang. Not a foreign anything.
While it has its origins in the US, it is very much an international gang.
Okay, so they’re like the Mafia instead of al-Qaeda.
It doesn’t matter who they are more like, they are a terrorist organization.
IDGAF.
Oryx:
Samm:
But they are citizens of that country (at least Garcia is) so how does that become our problem?
Come on, Samm. Everyone knows the answer to your question, yet for some reason (
) you keep asking it. We paid them millions to imprison dangerous gang members in CECOT, then we sent Garcia there and told them he’s a dangerous gang member. The US government is responsible for his lifetime imprisonment without a trial.
Yes, the answer is obvious … they were here illegally, now they’re gone.
Garcia wasn’t here illegally.
He was sent to the one country we were not supposed to send him.
Oryx:
Samm:
Yes, the answer is obvious … they were here illegally, now they’re gone.
Imprisoned for life with no trial. That’s immoral, Samm.
Immorality is subjective. Some would say that allowing MS13 gangs to run rampant around our country is immoral.
You’re offering a false choice to cover up the immorality.
It’s a false choice to say that either we imprison people without due process or else we will be allowing MS-13 to run rampant.
That’s that kind of rationalization rulers hope you’ll make because when you do, you usually also justify giving the rulers more power to stomp on rights.