No, they are not.
The first plane had 100 TdA gang members deported under the AEA. It had already exited US air space when the court ordered it be returned. The court didnât have that authority, as it was no longer in the US.
The remaining 2 planes had no one on board that would have been subject to the court order, as they werenât being deported under the AEA. The court had no authority to prevent them from leaving.
In regard to use of the AEA, lower courts have ruled its use to be unlawful, not unconstitutional. There is a very distinct difference.
What?!
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John Stewart boom!
This is false.
The DOJ ignored the judges verbal order and tried to claim that it was only valid when entered as a written order.
Which is preposterous.
WW
What exactly is false about my statements? Be specific and stop reciting LW talking points.
The AEA being constitutional as a power that Congress has granted the President and is what what it is.
However Congress limited use of the AEA to:
- Declared War (which only Congress can do), or
- Invasion by the foreign nation/government.
Trumps attempt to use it against a criminal organization is illegal (pertaining the AEA), but that does not make the AEA unconstitutional.
WW
None of them in chains? WeirdâŚ
Thought these were âthe worst of the worstâ
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You were factually incorrect when you said the planes had already left US airspace when the Judge issued his order.
That is incorrect. The verbal order was given when they were still in US jurisdiction.
The DOJ tried to claim that the verbal order didnât apply that the clock started when the written order was placed on the docket. By that time they claim was that the aircraft were out of US air space.
But that is bogus as the verbal order (while the planes were still here) are just as valid as the written. There are transcripts of the hearings and FAA records on flight departures and locations.
WW
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I love how every time someone gets challenged with fact the response is reduced to âLW talking pointsâ.
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Not Tren de Aragua. Did you read it?
Same guy.
âZingerâ conduscive to discussion. @WorldWatcher was specific. Heâs also not âLW.â Heâs just not a MAGA zealot.
You have the situational awareness of a rock.
Itâs code for âI donât know what to say, but I know Trump is right.â
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Illegals are here illegally.
- Anyone who has been here since before Jan 20, 2017 should be issued a green card.
- Those who crossed after that can be deported, but without being snatched by roaming gangs of paid thugs. Without being thrown on the concrete and beaten. Without being profiled by race or skin color.
- Anyone convicted of a violent crime, drug (not weed) trafficking, etc. should be deported. If they have been previously deported, sentence them to CECOT
Any jackboot who harasses, âdetainsâ, arrests or otherwise looks at a US citizen is immediately fired and sentenced to 2 years in supermax.
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Just because Congress granted it doesnât mean itâs constitutional.
And it doesnât make Trumpâs use of it unconstitutional.
Venezuela sent a plane to pick them up. Of course they wouldnât be in restraints. Had the US sent a plane with the illegals to Venezuela, they likely would have been in restraints.
If they are the worst of the worst⌠then why wouldnât Venezuela put them in chains? Or if they arenât WotW then why would the US?
Oh and how do you know it was Venezuela who sent the plane?
