So why do we need a wall?

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Tilly_jow

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Tilly_jow

Never seen you and your side really want to do anything about those breaking the law hiring the illegals. The real cause for people crossing.

You deny the truth.
I want them held accountable and even imprisoned if negligent. I’ve read others on the right say the same thing.

Get real. A few voices in the wind. In republican congress there’s NO real desire to do anything substansive to employers.

I proved you were wrong with just my post. That was my objective.
Now you are moving the goalpost because I proved you wrong.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@CanadianJudo

Not really that is 100x harder and stupider then simply driving the drug though a checkpoint.

Why do they go through a checkpoint instead of elsewhere, Canadian?

Is someone by the name of Acosta helping you post?

[BlueTex]

@Call_me_Ishmael

Amazing how little the left understands about defenses.

Virtually all defensive methods simply raise the price of attack. That is all they have ever done and all they do now. There is a constant dynamic of measure-countermeasure-countercountermeasure - ad infinitum. It is how we protect ourselves. The left is oblivious to how one defends anything.

Anytime the left lists a successful breech of a wall by anything more than simply walking over the border, they unwittingly acknowledge that a wall serves us well.

For the talk of economic “expertise” the right sure does seem to ignore simple cost/benefit analysis… For a couple of trillion, we could have an impenetrable southern border, why settle for a metal stake fence?

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

@thinkingman

tunnels are difficult and expensive to make and mantain

The tunnels are already there and believe it or not there’s a really good mark up on, you know, illegal drugs.

[thinkingman]

@Tilly_jow

That just shows you walls are still not the solution you think they are.

they are not the only solution but an impt part of the overall solution

no one is saying otherwise

[thinkingman]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

@thinkingman

tunnels are difficult and expensive to make and mantain

The tunnels are already there and believe it or not there’s a really good mark up on, you know, illegal drugs.

thanks for stating the hum hum obvious.

they have found tunnels. there are prob more

comprehensive border security.

[thinkingman]

@CanadianJudo

Not really that is 100x harder and stupider then simply driving the drug though a checkpoint.

yet, people work hard to get around, over and under the wall

shows how good they work!

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

@thinkingman

@CaughtInTheMiddle

@thinkingman

tunnels are difficult and expensive to make and mantain

The tunnels are already there and believe it or not there’s a really good mark up on, you know, illegal drugs.

thanks for stating the hum hum obvious.

they have found tunnels. there are prob more

comprehensive border security.

Hey, you’re the one who seems to think that drug lords would have a problem paying for tunnels.

[Blippie]

Tunnels are cheap. Irrigation tunnels go for miles. To think a wall is an effective measurement is short a stack

[CanadianJudo]

didn’t someone saw though Trump border wall in 5 mins?

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@BlueTex

@Call_me_Ishmael

Amazing how little the left understands about defenses.

Virtually all defensive methods simply raise the price of attack. That is all they have ever done and all they do now. There is a constant dynamic of measure-countermeasure-countercountermeasure - ad infinitum. It is how we protect ourselves. The left is oblivious to how one defends anything.

Anytime the left lists a successful breech of a wall by anything more than simply walking over the border, they unwittingly acknowledge that a wall serves us well.

For the talk of economic “expertise” the right sure does seem to ignore simple cost/benefit analysis… For a couple of trillion, we could have an impenetrable southern border, why settle for a metal stake fence?

It would never be impenetrable.
One picks a point on the cost vs benefit curve before it becomes a hockey stick.

[BlueTex]

@Call_me_Ishmael

It would never be impenetrable.
One picks a point on the cost vs benefit curve before it becomes a hockey stick.

Has anyone performed this analysis on the $5 billion? Would love to the see the analysis…

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Blippie

Tunnels are cheap. Irrigation tunnels go for miles. To think a wall is an effective measurement is short a stack

Laughable that in progressive liberals’ world, man can be woman but walls are deemed to be a ludicrous defense.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@BlueTex

@Call_me_Ishmael

It would never be impenetrable.
One picks a point on the cost vs benefit curve before it becomes a hockey stick.

Has anyone performed this analysis on the $5 billion? Would love to the see the analysis…

I doubt if you are really tuned in on how negotiations happen in appropriations bills.

The cost benefit analysis is just the beginning. Then there is the reality of what you can get approval for and the long term planning for adapting to the reality of appropriations.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@CanadianJudo

didn’t someone saw though Trump border wall in 5 mins?

I saw through progressive liberals long ago.

[BlueTex]

@Call_me_Ishmael

I doubt if you are really tuned in on how negotiations happen in appropriations bills.

The cost benefit analysis is just the beginning. Then there is the reality of what you can get approval for and the long term planning for adapting to the reality of appropriations.

LOL… I am pretty familiar with appropriation bills… Which brings up an interesting point, even if we appropriated $5 billion for a wall this year, how much do you think would be spent before FY2020. What would prevent the congress from not allocating any money in FY2020?

[JimmyC]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@CanadianJudo

Not really that is 100x harder and stupider then simply driving the drug though a checkpoint.

Why do they go through a checkpoint instead of elsewhere, Canadian?

Is someone by the name of Acosta helping you post?

Maybe because transporting large quantities of drugs is easier to do going through a checkpoint where you’ve got an actual highway that you can drive on as opposed to carrying them across the middle of the desert? If the bulk of drugs are coming in through ports of entry it would make more sense to focus on those areas.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@BlueTex

LOL… I am pretty familiar with appropriation bills…

So you know that amount requested changes to adapt to political realities. And yet you talk of cost benefit studies?

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@JimmyC

@Call_me_Ishmael

@CanadianJudo

Not really that is 100x harder and stupider then simply driving the drug though a checkpoint.

Why do they go through a checkpoint instead of elsewhere, Canadian?

Is someone by the name of Acosta helping you post?

Maybe because transporting large quantities of drugs is easier to do going through a checkpoint where you’ve got an actual highway that you can drive on as opposed to carrying them across the middle of the desert? If the bulk of drugs are coming in through ports of entry it would make more sense to focus on those areas.

Yep. That is the effect of a wall… pushing the illegal operations into a funnel that can be more easily controlled.

Thanks for agreeing… Abilio Jim

[CanadianJudo]

a wall would do nothing to stop illegal drugs.