Your question is incoherent. Why should the rapist be charged with murder?
Quiet Conanā¦the grownups are talking here.
Because innocent life was taken.
Now if I said this to youā¦I would receive multiple flags.
So you tell me what should I do. Should I hold you to same standard that libs on this forum hold me?
An 11 year old child should not have to carry the product of rape inside her body to full term when there is a perfectly safe and legal medical procedure that will allow her to hopefully move on with her life.
You guys act like allusions to handmaids tale are hyperbolic but this proves the point. ā ā ā ā ā ā ā disgusting sexist theocratic nonsense.
Thatās accessory, and since abortion isnāt murder, why should the rapist be thusly charged?
Heād pay enough just for being a rapist, if I had may way in setting the punishment for rape (which is probably why I shouldnāt be in charge of setting such punishments.

If she needs abortion because her health depends on it. Then why wouldnāt you charge the rapist for murder?
Because abortion isnāt murder. Charge him with rape. We already have laws about that.
Go ahead, flag me. Iāll own it.
You waded in with a statement that showed you obviously werenāt paying attention to what was an adult, if contentious, discussion on morality going on hereā¦one where there was clear agreement on the morality of taking a life.
You obviously donāt want to participate in such an adult conversation but instead a more juvenile one where you categorize, accuse and name call.
Iām not interested, so go peddle that somewhere else.
So fetus isnāt a lifeā¦a human life?
Now what about some innocent pregnant woman wearing Make America Great hat gets punched in the stomach by a radicalized lib and she loses the fetus/babyā¦should the assailant be charged for murder?

So fetus isnāt a lifeā¦a human life?
Now what about some innocent pregnant woman wearing Make America Great hat gets punched in the stomach by a radicalized lib and she loses the fetus/babyā¦should the assailant be charged for murder?
Abortion is not murder. We have laws, thatās what they say. So you cannot try someone for murder because someone else had an abortion. Thatās an idiotic idea that makes no sense.
The odds of a pregnant woman wearing a maga hat are very low, given that trump has maybe 30% support among women and most of them are over 55.

As has been stated time and time again, we set a dividing line. It is an imperfect dividing lineā¦but it exists because of challenging moral conflicts.
Again Iām going to ask whoās moralityā¦you did say we set the dividing line?
Whoās we.
If you going to continue with your insults yes Iām going to flag you.
So some crazy left-wing punches a pregnant Trump support in the stomach and she loses her baby itās not murder?
You say itās unlikely to happenā¦but yet here we are talking about 11 year old girl being pregnant after a rape.

You keep changing the criteria ⦠first it was that a six-week old fetus does not have a heart to beat. Now you are bringing up prefrontal cortexes as being necessary for a life to have autonomy. Does an amoeba have autonomy over itās body?
The criteria has not changed.
It is about development into viability.
An amoeba has no awareness and no way to process an idea of autonomy. So the question is silly.
Whoās morality Jay?
Who sets the dividing line?
There has to be a point in this when common sense takes over. Even though Iām personally pro-life, if this was my daughter, we going to the clinic. Unfortunately we got people making decisions, knowing damn well if the shoe was on the other foot and it was their little girl they would be the first ones ready to abort. Itās all good when it doesnāt directly impact you, but when it doesā¦
We all know that most libs want to set their own morality on society at largeā¦or should I say lack of morality?

So some crazy left-wing punches a pregnant Trump support in the stomach and she loses her baby itās not murder?
You say itās unlikely to happenā¦but yet here we are talking about 11 year old girl being pregnant after a rape.
In some states that can carry a charge of murder.
The autonomy of the woman to carry to full term has been taken away from her.
Understanding this isnāt hard.

So some crazy left-wing punches a pregnant Trump support in the stomach and she loses her baby itās not murder?
You say itās unlikely to happenā¦but yet here we are talking about 11 year old girl being pregnant after a rape.
In your completely bizarre made up fan fiction, if it were to occur in one of the 38 states with fetal homicide laws, then yes it would be legally murder.
I dunno Iām not a lawyer. And youāre no fiction writer, though Iām sure right now you are very worked up and angry about this hypothetical violent lib.

Whoās morality Jay?
Who sets the dividing line?
That is what the ongoing debate around abortion is about.
I am fine with the line drawn at Roe v Wade.

We all know that most libs want to set their own morality on society at largeā¦or should I say lack of morality?
Typing stuff like this does not make it easier to try to have a conversation with you.