Basically. Meaning when Fox & Friends spins it that way.
He meant people there in Virginia, in general.
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Trump says many things to many audiences because his weak ego craves approval BUT his ambivalence about condemning Charlotttesville has been beyond question and his moral failure on this matter absolute.
He continued his defense if the âUnite the Rightâ rally just yesterday.
There were no people there protesting the removal of the statue that werenât white nationalists. Thatâs just trump and his supporters gaslighting the rest of us.
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Maybe when the torches come out and a woman gets murdered you get SUPER clear about who the fine people are.
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His exact words at the time:
âIâm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totallyâŚ,.â
There is no way to put that in a context where he is saying that neo-Nazis and white nationalists are fine people. No wayâŚunless you are carefully leaving out appropriate parts of what he said and âsummarizingâ it.
There where no âFine peopleâ there everyone at that rally was supporting white nationalism.
that is like saying Iâm not supporting the KKK if I go to a KKK rally because they have good cookies.
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What he did was invent a group of âfine peopleâ that were there - some imaginary group of people who werenât white supremacists, but just really liked a statue - and used them to play down his condemnation.
Because he knew all those people there voted for him.
California is a âMay Issueâ state, meaning even if your background is as clean as a whistle, the issuance of a CCW permit is up to the discretion of the issuing authority.
That quote is out of context with the âfine peopleâ comment. Hereâs the contextâŚ
Reporter : âMr. President, are you putting what youâre calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?â
Trump : "Iâm not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iâm saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs â and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left â you just called them the left â that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatâs the way it is.
Reporter : (Inaudible) â⌠both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --â
Trump : âYes, I think thereâs blame on both sides. If you look at both sides â I think thereâs blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donât have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say.â
Reporter : âThe neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --â
Trump : âExcuse me, excuse me. They didnât put themselves â and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.â
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Well, if theyâre concealing them properly you wouldnât know how many people are carrying. Thatâs kinda the idea of the whole concealed part.
Itâs actually worse the more you read. Itâs like you can see him tossing around âthey are being treated very unfairlyâ in his mind on a loop so much that he has no idea what words heâs actually saying.
At best, Trump was staggeringly ill-informed and had no idea what he was saying.
At worst, he was deliberately appeasing and pandering to racists.
Not every Trumper is a white nationalists, but every white nationalists is a Trumper.
Bold I know
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Yeah. Hereâs the full press interview. He was given plenty of times to denounce the alt-right, even lead with a plain condemnation. Instead he attempted to deflect again and again. He finally did so at the end of the questions. I think it was because he maybe realized the hole he had dug himself. Or really is that clumsy and incoherent.
But I was told it wasnât about the statue.
Why would the reason the alt-right is at a certain place at a certain time justify their actions or motivation? Does being there for a statue protest mean the president shouldnât quickly and decisively condemn them? Or does that make it OK for him to wait 48 hours and then stumble through questions?
Update on the shooting.
8chan is filled with Qanon followers and white supremacists.
A user self-identifying himself as John Earnest posted a white nationalist open letter to the far-right message board 8chan. He also used the username âJohnTEarnestâ to post the letter on a document hosting site.
It wasnât about the statue. Thatâs the point.
Either Trump lied, or - giving him the most benefit of the doubt possible - he just didnt know what he was talking about.
