Sanctuary Cities, Good? Or Bad?

Send them home and let them better their lives and pay taxes where they belong instead of becoming dependents on the US.

Over half of all immigrants today are on welfare and it’s highest among illegals.

You’re not alone. It’s confusing. Punishing employers who hire them would require enforcement, which they’re against.

Come on man. Illegals don’t qualify for welfare. Legal immigrants have to be here five years paying taxes before they can qualify. Not to mention in order to immigrate here legally they have to prove they are financially independent so they aren’t likely to need welfare in the first place.

Now if you meant to say illegals who come here and have kids are getting welfare, that’s a different story. The kids born here are eligible for welfare just as any other us citizen is. Of course, being minors, the parents get those benefits on behalf of their children. Just as citizen parents get the benefits on behalf of their children if their children qualify.

Can I get like a 10 year tax holiday as well?

Probably? We don’t have solid numbers on who is here illegally and who isn’t. How in the hell would you have any idea whether they’re being here is a positive or a negative unless you’re making it up? The DREAM Act alone was projected to cost $26 billion over 10 years. How’s your math?

That’s completely false. Their kids are entitled to everything and all of the catch and release families is receiving multiple forms of welfare on every level.

Which isn’t illegals on welfare. Their kids are on welfare. Which is what I just said.

They are illegals. They come with their parents.

If the kids are born in the US, they aren’t illegals. They’re US citizens. Hence why they’re eligible for welfare. Want that to change? Amend the Constitution to eliminate the birthright citizenship loophole for children of non citizens. Otherwise, you’re tilting at windmills.

Those they drag with them to the US are getting every form of welfare available from food stamps to subsidized housing, healthcare, daycare not to mention what is spent providing for all their needs while in detention.

No, they aren’t. Not unless the state they are in specifically has a law that allows them to. Federal law prohibits most benefits going to illegal aliens at all, and even legal non citizens have to wait five years before they are eligible.

If you read the link, they’re talking mostly about benefits going to legal immigrants. And since they’re pushing heavily for welfare reform, I assume they actually know what they’re talking about. I’m not sure why you’re sticking with the illegals getting benefits line since that has already been debunked numerous times on here.

And that’s simply false. Everyone of those families dumped on the streets through the catch and release is getting state and federal assistance from housing, to healthcare, and food.

All of those in custody have everything provided for them.

Every single unaccompanied minor gets benefits as well.

The supposed law is a complete sham.

What benefits they can’t get federally they get at the state and local level and every bit of it comes out of our tax dollars.

Of course once dumped on the street many simply disappear and won’t be found again if ever except vial welfare authorities.

Again those that don’t end up on a specific program like chips end up getting their free healthcare at taxpayer expense through local ER’s.

SNAP itself actually prioritizes illegals.

No what’s simply false is your claim that welfare is going to illegals. Welfare benefits issued to mixed families are still going to the legal citizens, not the illegals. Just because the illegals are also benefiting from the citizen getting welfare doesn’t make your statement any less false. And if illegals aren’t eligible for benefits, why should their income count against citizens who are eligible? Unless you want to make a point that somehow that equals gaming the system but who came up with the rule?

You need to actually read the article you linked. They don’t issue SNAP to illegals. The article makes the argument that since they don’t factor in income of illegals in mixed families when determining eligibility, that is giving illegals preference. That doesn’t even make sense no matter how hard you stretch that reasoning.

It does if you slow down and actually think for just a moment while reading it.

A citizen must show their income to prove eligibility, illegals do not and they still get the benefits.

The higher your income the lower the amount of aid you are eligible for.

No they do not. The benefits are going to legal immigrants or children who were born here. As illegals aren’t eligible to begin with, why should their income be considered? They aren’t counted when calculating the amount of aid received either. SNAP is calculated based on the total number of people who would be eligible in the household as well as their income. You can’t have it both ways. If the kids were born here, they are automatically eligible just as any other US citizen would be. You don’t get to exclude them just because their parents aren’t eligible. If the parents were eligible, their income would be considered and they wouldn’t qualify based on that. Since they’re not, their income doesn’t factor into it. Sounds like a problem with the law to me.

That’s utterly ridiculous and be both know it. Those benefits go to the entire family period.

So what? Fix the law.

So it’s the entire point you’ve been trying to argue against which is called reality.

No matter how the law is worded those benefits go to the entire family period. The only way to change that would be to separate them and deport the parents or put the parents in separate custody and the kiids in foster care.

The entire point we’ve been arguing is illegals aren’t eligible to receive benefits. Nothing you’ve posted has contradicted that.

As for your last scenario, the kids in foster care would still be eligible and get benefits, so I’m not sure how that would solve your problem.

Everyone of those I detailed out specifically does. Call it want you want, it’s federally and state funded public assistance provided to illegals.

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