Resurfacing: The White House is currently working on ways to EXCLUDE illegal aliens from the US census, per Stephen Miller (WH Dep Chief of Staff)

Beat the hell out of you?
Disappear you from your family?
Hire bounty hunters to drag you off?

You’re not going to get 3,000 a day using discretion.

The black heart it takes to follow - and give - those orders…

sad times for sure.

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Then the answer is to “unreside” them, not to give them political influence by increasing congressional representation because of them.

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The worst part is many of those “only following orders” are of the same demographic.

Right on!

The example you use of that woman who was here for 47 years is used over and over again. And I agree with you in some number of cases, hers included, discretion should be used. Of course, when you dom that, those who don’t get privileged will be yelling about equal treatment.
But in any case, Trump claimed he was going to have mass deportations. He claimed he was going after criminals, but he never claimed he was only going after criminals. That is a common misrepresentations.

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Nope.

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Meanwhile
→ one of these things is not like the other. ←
See if you can spot it:

Law A (traffic law) is occaisonally abused by cops –
We don’t stop enforcing the entire category, and no one in their right mind calls for that.

Law B (polluting) is occaisonally abused by cops –
We don’t stop enforcing the entire category, and no one in their right mind calls for that.

Law C is occaisonally abused by cops –
What? That is immigration law! We must stop enforcing the entire category, blame the president and call America an Gestapo state. For now on anyone who has organized a criminal enterprise based on breaking that law 24/7/365 must be treated as though he has never violated the law.

Yep.
That’s what’s happening.

How is what he said a strawman?

That actually happened.

And what is also actually happening is Trump is not, in fact, going after the “most dangerous” because he couldn’t get good metrics doing that.

Because the most dangerous are also pretty good at evading getting caught.

Instead he is going after those people who are trying to do the right things to get permanent status.

Because they do what they are supposed to do, it’s easy to find and deport them.

Not sure how you don’t see this is what’s happening.

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Now THIS is a strawman.

No one has argued that we should stop enforcing immigration laws.

Well…no one here has done that.

It’s not remotely “occasionally” either.

I honestly have not read nything here that seemed like
“Oh I support the deportations, I just wish they would be more careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater.”

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Then you haven’t read any of my posts, or the posts of several others, on these boards.

Direct from the brown-people-beating, people-disappearing Gestapo HQ:

From Nonsense By Collectivists

How a Nebraska immigration raid tied to an identity theft investigation unfolded

The Homeland Security agent in charge of the operation at an Omaha meat processing plant said it had been under investigation for 3 months before the arrests; the probe is still ongoing.

From a rightwing site:

Dozens of employees were detained by ICE over federal crimes like identity theft.

The Donald Trump administration has clamped down on illegal employment, and it seems the simple enforcement of existing law has been enough to cripple businesses relying on undocumented labor.

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:rofl: They are the only ones rounded up?

Where are the round up really happening?

Now we know why DEMs want open borders. More House representation.

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And votes.

In states like Cali (imo) they are already getting said votes.

Illegals can’t vote in federal elections.

I mean. Doesn’t seem like it would make that much of difference. But you keep on believing.

If unauthorized immigrants were excluded from the apportionment count, California, Florida and Texas would each end up with one less congressional seat than they would have been awarded based on population change alone. California would lose two seats instead of one, Florida would gain one instead of two, and Texas would gain two instead of three, according to analysis based on projections of Census Bureau 2019 population estimates and the Center’s estimates of the unauthorized immigrant population.