I’m really not trying to be contrarian here - and this is certainly not an area I know much about. Nor do I have any strong opinions about what Census should count…I’m only thinking of this from the perspective of survey design, which it turns out I do have some experience with.
Wouldn’t that series of question exclude everyone here on an immigrant visa? family members here as lawful permanent residents? skilled workers and investors? Of course maybe there’s a reason to exclude those
It would not be difficult to design a survey tbat comies with the law.
BUT
With how ICE is rounding up people off the street, good luck getting anyone with a questionable legal status to disclose that status to a government representative. I thought the entire point of including citizenship status was to scare off immigrants from participating in the census, therefore lowering numbers.
IT might be difficult to design a survey that elicits the correct response from people, however.
I’m guessing a case can be made that free persons does not have to include by definition those here illegally.
On the other hand, you are correct that not counting them isn’t going to make the problems associated with them go away, and what this is us a calculated effort on the part of the GOP to try and cement their power in the federal government because they will make the assumption that there are more illegals in blue districts than red…and this is likely not an unwarranted assumption.
The goal of the census survey will be to depression the number of people counted in blue districts more than they are in red districts.
I’m sure the Trump Administration will find people skilled at designing surveys that are likely to do that.
Let’s just call these things out for what they are as opposed to buying into the veneer of “rationale” offered up to justify those things.
Or they could add
6b.) “If you answered ‘No’ to the above, what is your greencard number?”
(Other methods are also possible.)
Census can’t collect green card numbers anymore than they can collect SSNs.
Miller is a freakin’ problem.
That’s not true at all.
There are dozens of stories about people here legally being rounded up.
it’s like you don’t care at all HOW they respond to the perceived problem…
I HAD to burn the building down because there was a criminal inside…
That’s not true.
Yeah, i was once pulled over for a traffic violation I had not commited.
Should we
We should round up brown people and punch on them until a court stops us.
Your state is acting like 1937. Maybe '38. We are well along the road.
Your twitter feed tell you they’re using bounty hunters?
So you think we should deport people like that woman who was here from Iran 47 years ago, who was following the instructions of teh immigration court that stayed her deportation and was here legally?
How does that help?
Biden didn’t let her in.
Is that what said?
Or are you stuck making-up strawmen because you have zero, zero, absolutely zero good reasons to oppose Trump on this?
It’s what’s happening.
Yeah, i was once pulled over for a traffic violation I had not commited.
Time to end all traffic enforcement?
Blame the President? Call America a Gestapo state?
You said they were rounding up criminal illegals.
I pointed out they are not all criminals. For example, the woman who has been here for 47 years.
This is no strawman. I think those kinds of round ups are utterly terrible for our country.
