It appears that some governors now dont want the worst of both worlds and would like to finish the process Trump started. Seems like there is plenty of blame to go around at all levels.
His very reasonable guidelines in fact do offer the direction that many states should remain shut down at this time.
As was pointed out, Trump is talking out of both sides of his mouth.
The guidelines he put in place are dictating that certain states/areas stay locked down…he hasn’t disavowed the guidelines, but is politically punishing those Democratic governors that are abiding by them. All to avoid any culpability whatsoever.
He is completely playing politics. He’s being neither scientific nor caring about people.
And his supporters enable that.
thinkingman:is trump the one who keeps directing that things be shut down?
It appears that some governors now dont want the worst of both worlds and would like to finish the process Trump started. Seems like there is plenty of blame to go around at all levels.
i ll try once more
yes or no. here is the question. dont worry everyone will still think you at poster level - master
is trump the one who keeps directing that things be shut down?
except for the protesters screaming about muh freedumb.
How does that affect you and why is it an exception to “things are looking pretty good”?
I am not happy with Trumps response either. Or my governor Mike DeWine. I don’t care what letter is after their name. This draconian shut down should never have happened.
but is politically punishing those Democratic governors that are abiding by them.
How?
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JayJay:but is politically punishing those Democratic governors that are abiding by them.
How?
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“Politically punishing”.
thinkingman: JayJay: thinkingman: JayJay: thinkingman:as soon as i heard they were going to shut down society i knew it would not end soon
but then as a mere thinking man, i know how the destructive power mad left works
now you do too
Trump is a leftist?
nothing i posted suggests that.
It absolutely does.
“15 Days to Stop the Spread” was Trump’s Administration.
yeah 15 days. not months on end, thanks for making that clear
whos keeping things closed now?
As was pointed out, Trump is talking out of both sides of his mouth.
The guidelines he put in place are dictating that certain states/areas stay locked down…he hasn’t disavowed the guidelines, but is politically punishing those Democratic governors that are abiding by them. All to avoid any culpability whatsoever.
He is completely playing politics. He’s being neither scientific nor caring about people.
And his supporters enable that.
bzzt wrong answer
everyone else is playing politics blaming him on the economy etc while they keep extending fir months
those arent his guidelines
i ll try once more
I’ve answered your question twice, you however haven’t even attempted to answer mine. Why should Trump be blameless for the process he initiated?
those arent his guidelines
Yes they are. Show where in his guidelines it says it should only be a short shutdown? You can’t
Two things that have been established is that a) no one with any credibility said definitively we would only be closed for 2 weeks. Anyone with any sort of critical thinking skills will know that you can not stop the spread of a virus in a defined 2 week period. b) It is not just democrat governors that closed their state and refuse to reopen it.
Two things that have been established is that a) no one with any credibility said definitively we would only be closed for 2 weeks. Anyone with any sort of critical thinking skills will know that you can not stop the spread of a virus in a defined 2 week period. b) It is not just democrat governors that closed their state and refuse to reopen it.
So we weren’t really being told to stay at home to flatten the curve as opposed to until it’s spread stopped? Have to disagree.
They sold the shutdown on it was to “Flatten the curve”…and it would be for “ONLY” 2 weeks…
Well, the “Curve” was flattened 2 months ago…
NOW it’s just about POWER & seeing just how far they can push us.
All these Governor’s are just on a POWER TRIP now, & it’s crap!
This is crushing the middle class & small businesses while the Walmart’s, lumber yards, & 40% of businesses are allowed to open but nobody else.
ALL businesses ARE essential. ALL jobs ARE essential.
This is insane, & pushback is in order. If we don’t take back our freedom we are cowards & sniveling, groveling, nail biters.
This is NOT the bubonic plague, it has a 1/2 of 1% death rate, of course that’s not being reported. If this had a 20% death rate we wouldn’t need a forced shutdown we would just do it.
This is NOT about this virus, it’s about POWER.
Apart from this link where the White House said “15 days to slow the spread” can you provide any links to where the American public was told the shutdown would be for only 2 weeks?
Nemesis:Two things that have been established is that a) no one with any credibility said definitively we would only be closed for 2 weeks. Anyone with any sort of critical thinking skills will know that you can not stop the spread of a virus in a defined 2 week period. b) It is not just democrat governors that closed their state and refuse to reopen it.
So we weren’t really being told to stay at home to flatten the curve as opposed to until it’s spread stopped? Have to disagree.
Flattening the curve was never going to be accomplished within 2 weeks
I can you show you as many as you like saying it was to flatten the curve and avoid overwhelming hospitals as opposed to until it stopped spreading.
WuWei: JayJay:but is politically punishing those Democratic governors that are abiding by them.
How?
…“Politically punishing”.
Yes, but how?
Nemesis:Two things that have been established is that a) no one with any credibility said definitively we would only be closed for 2 weeks. Anyone with any sort of critical thinking skills will know that you can not stop the spread of a virus in a defined 2 week period. b) It is not just democrat governors that closed their state and refuse to reopen it.
So we weren’t really being told to stay at home to flatten the curve as opposed to until it’s spread stopped? Have to disagree.
What are you chuntering on about? Stop playing word games, flattening the curve and stopping the spread of the virus ate pretty much the same thing. The shutdown was not to 100% stop the sprea but mitigate infection. We are now cautiously reopening.
I can you show you as many as you like saying it was to flatten the curve and avoid overwhelming hospitals as opposed to until it stopped spreading.
What are you on about. Where did I say its was not about flattening the curve???
Actually -It shows he is wrong.
CO -Dem gov -Open
OH / MD - R gov - Shut down
RI - Dem gov -OpenThats just what i know off top of my head. Not to mention he said a absolute. Not a “It seems” or “Rough numbers” he stated very clearly - 26 states open and 24 blue states shut"
Its a true / false statement. It is false.
No. It isn’t absolute, but he is generally correct. If you wan’t to hang your hat on its not being absolute blue/red go ahead. Generally, red states are opening and blue states are staying closed.
The real question should be “why”?