Religion under attack?

[WuWei]

@CanadianJudo

Its always about power, and power corrupts.

Power to do what?

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

Follow-up question: Does anyone here feel it’s not that religion in general is under attack in America, just Christianity in particular?

Just Christianity.

[WuWei]

@JayJay

@WuWei

@JayJay

@WuWei

@JayJay

@WuWei

You (collective) have placed every bit of your faith (and that’s what it is) in man. In central government.

It is just as much a religion as Christianity, this atheism of yours. You are just as pious about it as any of those you mock.

You (collective) are not superior.

False dichotomy.

It’s not a dichotomy at all.

Yes…you invoked a false dichotomy…either faith in God or faith in man.

Those aren’t the only choices.

Well, no I didn’t, but ok. What else is there?

Plenty of different options to choose from.

As varied as is the human experience.

Name one.

[Blackwolf]

@WuWei

Just Christianity.

I’ll agree with that somewhat. It is much easier for the left to go after Christianity in particular as opposed to other religions, primarily because a) political correctness provides a certain buffer for other faiths, and b) Christianity has dominated the American landscape for so long that it is naturally the easiest target.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@WuWei

Just Christianity.

I’ll agree with that somewhat. It is much easier for the left to go after Christianity in particular as opposed to other religions, primarily because a) political correctness provides a certain buffer for other faiths, and b) Christianity has dominated the American landscape for so long that it is naturally the easiest target.

Fair assessment.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

When people get past the idea that they are being gotcha-ed or attacked, or even if they are and are able to get past it, there’s breathing space for some decent exchanges.

I’d like to address this here, if you don’t mind. If you do, let me know and I’ll delete it.

Maybe not attacking would be a better option. Why should I “get past it” if I’m attacked?

And it is attacking. Intent vs. Impact. You (collective) lost your benefit of the doubt privileges long ago.

[Blackwolf]

@WuWei

I’d like to address this here, if you don’t mind. If you do, let me know and I’ll delete it.

Maybe not attacking would be a better option. Why should I “get past it” if I’m attacked?

And it is attacking. Intent vs. Impact. You (collective) lost your benefit of the doubt privileges long ago.

Tangential.

I will say the easiest way to defuse an attack is not adopt the victim’s mantle if it happens, do not return in kind, and remain on topic.

Or, you know, attack in kind because OT rules of engagement and pride and all. And then expect the topic to derail and the mods to plow the thread under and sow it with quicklime.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@WuWei

I’d like to address this here, if you don’t mind. If you do, let me know and I’ll delete it.

Maybe not attacking would be a better option. Why should I “get past it” if I’m attacked?

And it is attacking. Intent vs. Impact. You (collective) lost your benefit of the doubt privileges long ago.

Tangential.

I will say the easiest way to defuse an attack is not adopt the victim’s mantle if it happens, do not return in kind, and remain on topic.

Or, you know, attack in kind because OT rules of engagement and pride and all. And then expect the topic to derail and the mods to plow the thread under and sow it with quicklime.

So submit. Imagine that.

I’m not talking about just this forum.

[Blackwolf]

@WuWei

So submit. Imagine that.

I’m not talking about just this forum.

Where do you get submission from any of that? Not responding to a troll or a childish insult is submitting? That’s Trump thinking.

Maybe not let someone else dictate your behavior to you.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@WuWei

So submit. Imagine that.

I’m not talking about just this forum.

Where do you get submission from any of that? Not responding to a troll or a childish insult is submitting? That’s Trump thinking.

Maybe not let someone else dictate your behavior to you.

Have a nice evening.

Emphasis mine.

[Blackwolf]

@WuWei

Have a nice evening.

Emphasis mine.

Right on

[mobulis]

@conan

Goverment gets to express their faith on private property, public property, schools, airwaves etc. You name it there they are.

We understand goverment is your higher power…what the left can’t do is accept that our higher power isn’t the goverment. And thou you use goverment to impose your beliefs onto others.

The left is afraid of being challenged to they create laws banning or limited their competition.

Wrong.

[JayJay]

@WuWei

@JayJay

@WuWei

@JayJay

@WuWei

@JayJay

@WuWei

You (collective) have placed every bit of your faith (and that’s what it is) in man. In central government.

It is just as much a religion as Christianity, this atheism of yours. You are just as pious about it as any of those you mock.

You (collective) are not superior.

False dichotomy.

It’s not a dichotomy at all.

Yes…you invoked a false dichotomy…either faith in God or faith in man.

Those aren’t the only choices.

Well, no I didn’t, but ok. What else is there?

Plenty of different options to choose from.

As varied as is the human experience.

Name one.

No faith at all.

[Guilds]

@WuWei

Is that your Litmus List?

There you go again.

Inane questions, to muddy up the thread.

Complex cleverness is quite elusive.

Keep trying.

[Guilds]

@conan

Exactly. They look to our goverment the same way a Christians looks to Jesus, Muslims look to Muhammad…

[Axxowiz]

I don’t think Christians are being persecuted in the U.S. by the government. They are certain groups like the ACLU for instance that I could see Christians having a problem with or feel targeted by.

[Tangible08]

@WuWei

You (collective) have placed every bit of your faith (and that’s what it is) in man. In central government.

It is just as much a religion as Christianity, this atheism of yours. You are just as pious about it as any of those you mock.

You (collective) are not superior.

Religious faith is largely faith in the words of men. The Bible was written by men. It’s chapters were selected by men. It’s words were translated by men. Every Sunday, Christians go to church to hear men speak.

People on the left can be just as distrustful of government as people on the right. The Left wants a better government…that doesn’t equate to having faith in government.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Ex-Pat

Did that 9/11 mosque ever get built?

‘Ground Zero mosque’ opens quietly | News | Al Jazeera

Like everything else in NYC, it has been demolished to build a high rise condo.

[Plasmaball]

I love it when people tell me how and what to think

[WuWei]

@Guilds

@WuWei

Is that your Litmus List?

There you go again.

Inane questions, to muddy up the thread.

Complex cleverness is quite elusive.

Keep trying.

Thanks for contributing.