conan:
On the morning of Nov 5th 2018 at 5:17 AM a man heard a knock on his door.
Gary Willis opened the door with a pistol in his hand, see they were cops so he sets the gun down. He become irritated when the cops served him their orders, to confiscated his guns. There was struggle for his pistol that he had set down, during that struggle second friendly cop shot and killed Gary Willis.
According to her niece.
Michele Willis is the niece of Gary Willis. She described her uncle as a person that likes to speak his mind but was harmless. She stated that her uncle wasn’t a danger to anyone and questioned the police response.
I wonder how many here speaks their mind?
Police are also being tight-lipped about the cause for the order to be taken out on Willis due to being legally restrained to the amount of information that can be released to the public because of the law dealing with extreme risk protection orders.
Overall there has been 114 petitions in Maryland with Anne Arundel County accounted for 19.
Read the story here.
https://www.ammoland.com/2018/11/maryland-red-flag-gun-confiscation-order-ends-with-dead-gun-owner/#axzz5wDVzJ4kz
I thought his second amendment rights were going to keep the government from coming to take his guns? Is this an example of how it didn’t work?
Hey, you know all those restrictive abortion laws various states have passed recently? And how when someone brings up a worst case scenario conservatives say “Aw, that’ll never happen!”? That’s the track we should take with this. It ain’t never gonna happen. Well, until it does…
Fine, I’ll run him over with my ATV instead (that’s proverbial for you loonies out there). lol
calirepub:
Don’t forget what Trump said last year.
“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida … to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.
“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.
Take him seriously, not literally.
Some live in better neighborhoods than others.
WuWei
August 10, 2019, 8:23pm
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Guvnah:
I’ve noticed the number of “mental health experts” that have been on the air lately, trying to separate “DIAGNOSED mental health” issues from people who are plain-old-nuts.
“This isn’t a mental health issue…”
Both shooters last weekend were not DIAGNOSED mental health patients, but clearly both has screws loose.
I said this in another thread. Red flag laws as they are currently proposed (and as they are implemented in some states already) violate the concept of due process. Just being accused by … anybody (as it is implemented in Colorado, for instance) gets the accused gun owner wrapped up in an expensive legal mess. It’s ripe for revenge reporting. It’s ripe for abuse.
But at the same time there needs to be a mechanism for proper reporting of problems. The El Paso shooter’s mother earlier reported her son. She knew trouble was afoot.
There are times when people in the know (family, friends, co-workers) absolutely DO have a reasonable concern. Somehow we need to find a way to tap into that knowledge – properly and constitutionally – and act on it (again, properly and constitutionally.)
Trigger-reporting needs to be weeded out. Revenge reporting. Swatting. Anyone can propose that so-and-so has a mental problem now.
Today’s armchair retrospective-reporting is fueling unwarranted concerns. “Looking back … he wrote something …” “Looking back … he had a picture on his wall…” “Looking back … this or that …” He had a mental health issue.
There are a million people with pictures on their walls. With a confederate flag on their internet avatar. Who have “written something” … (and even people on this board have “written something” that (if they were to shoot up a 7-11 ) we could look back and say, “Well, he wrote x-y-z…”
Do all of them have mental health issues?
Should every such statement trigger a red flag? Should every confederate license plate holder trigger a red flag? Should every post wishing ill upon Trump donors trigger a red flag?
Right now the “red flag” laws would allow for that. Do we really want to go there?
Good post.
Yes, it is and always has been. Those rights in the Bill of Rights, all of them, were bought and paid for with blood and that is part and parcel of them.
You © collective seem to want “safe”. You © don’t want freedom, you © want liberty and you © don’t want others to have the liberty to…
The two words mean different things. Freedom from … is messy, it can be very tough at times. Liberty to… not so much.
It tears my heart out every time I hear of one of these incidents, especially when chi…
This could get me on a list.
WuWei
August 10, 2019, 8:24pm
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conan:
On the morning of Nov 5th 2018 at 5:17 AM a man heard a knock on his door.
Gary Willis opened the door with a pistol in his hand, see they were cops so he sets the gun down. He become irritated when the cops served him their orders, to confiscated his guns. There was struggle for his pistol that he had set down, during that struggle second friendly cop shot and killed Gary Willis.
According to her niece.
Michele Willis is the niece of Gary Willis. She described her uncle as a person that likes to speak his mind but was harmless. She stated that her uncle wasn’t a danger to anyone and questioned the police response.
I wonder how many here speaks their mind?
Police are also being tight-lipped about the cause for the order to be taken out on Willis due to being legally restrained to the amount of information that can be released to the public because of the law dealing with extreme risk protection orders.
Overall there has been 114 petitions in Maryland with Anne Arundel County accounted for 19.
Read the story here.
Maryland Red Flag Gun Confiscation Order Ends with Dead Gun Owner
And it happens over and over again.
WuWei
August 10, 2019, 8:29pm
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Comrades, you must report suspicious behavior by you neighbors, friends and family members for the good of the state! If you see or hear something, say something!
Where have I heard that before?
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Guy didn’t become irate until they told him they were there for his guns.
conan
August 10, 2019, 8:31pm
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Unless it’s minority or Muslim…then you’re racist bigot for reporting em.
WuWei
August 10, 2019, 8:32pm
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Not reporting a black man in a white neighborhood, they’re ok with that.
WuWei
August 10, 2019, 8:32pm
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Good Lord, what a mess they created.
61 years old. I wonder if whoever reported him knew this could happen? Or hoped?
conan
August 10, 2019, 8:34pm
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And the fact that police are tight-lipped about the cause for the order…or why.
WuWei
August 10, 2019, 8:36pm
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Barely middle age. What crime did he commit to have his property seized?
Somebody had a feeeeling about his right to own a gun.
conan
August 10, 2019, 8:37pm
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Sadly to say the police are not our friends.
They will do what their left-wing authoritarians tell em.
According to his niece…speaking his mind. Never mind the fact that guy doesn’t have any arrest records. At least I couldn’t find any.
WuWei
August 10, 2019, 8:38pm
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“Under the law, family, police, mental health professionals can all ask for the protective orders to remove weapons,” said Sgt. Jacklyn David, with Anne Arundel County Police.
From the link. The police?
