Police fired after shooting man in back. Man was in wheelchair and had a knife

[WuWei]

They could have just stuck a broom handle through the wheels.

[Rurudyne]

Yes. The shutdown let parents see lots of things that had been kept hidden from them.

[LeroyBrown]

@Guvnah

And in classrooms.

I’d love to have a couple of cameras and mics in my classroom, for my protection. Pity the teacher’s union in this district thinks it infringes on the teacher’s rights.

[Scratch]

@LeroyBrown

The sad thing is that if there weren’t so many cameras showing what happened, this would have been another “I feared for my life” justification of murder by a police officer, and it would have been covered up.

Exactly…And god knows how many people cops killed and walked away scott free.

[Axxowiz]

Ya if he and ied he could be exterminated with extreme prejudice. In this case though it was a knife and he shouldn’t have been shot maybe at worse the police would shoot the tire out of the wheel chair.

[FloridaYankee]

@Guvnah

Need to point out that this is yet another case of someone disobeying police orders after an initial confrontation. (And for the record, the initial confrontation was because the guy shoplifted merchandise. When the cop asked for a receipt, he pulled the knife and said, “Here is my receipt.”)

Not saying this justifies the cop’s choice of force. Not at all.

I will say that force (of some sort) was necessary. He defied a reasonable police order and was heading to the store with a weapon. That had to be stopped. Maybe a taser shot. Or, given the “slow-speed chase” in an electric wheelchair, a billy club jammed into the spokes of the wheelchair would have stopped the vehicle. And if the guy was truly unable to walk, that would have been the end of it.

I would NOT say that a physical overpowering of the guy by the cop (or two, or more) would have been prudent. Yes, they would have succeeded, but one or more could have been badly slashed/stabbed with the knife in the process.

I could almost understand ONE shot from the service revolver. I wouldn’t have endorsed that, but I could understand it. But 9 shots? No sir. And the cop’s last shot had a pause before it. To me, that one seemed calculated and deliberate, and not adrenaline-driven (if he chooses to take that argument to explain why he used so many shots.)

Grab him by the hair and yank him out of the damn chair.

[WuWei]

When was the last time a guy in a wheelchair had an IED in this country?

[TheRedComet]

A movie called Batman V Superman.

I can’t even think of a real life event that’s occurred in my life time involving a wheelchair bound man and an explosive.

[Guvnah]

@FloridaYankee

Grab him by the hair and yank him out of the damn chair.

I’d be fine with that.

You could bet that some disabled-rights group would call it abuse of an at-risk adult, or something like that.

[FlameHeart]

This man had his back turned and it’s not like he had stolen property or just assaulted someone.

I am in agreement that what this cop did was unnecessary. Don’t shoot him, but rather, get him to the ground or try to disarm him when his back is turned. It is difficult to turn around in a wheelchair when someone is right up your ass.

[FlameHeart]

Same here. And I am disabled or used to be. If I was attacking someone by throwing punches, when my hips were bad, someone has every right to defend themselves or restrain me.

I’m sick of people getting a pass because they are disabled. Another case would be a man with stage 6 dementia sexually assaulting or raping another person. He needs to be restrained in the very least.

[FlameHeart]

sigh

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@FloridaYankee

@Guvnah

Need to point out that this is yet another case of someone disobeying police orders after an initial confrontation. (And for the record, the initial confrontation was because the guy shoplifted merchandise. When the cop asked for a receipt, he pulled the knife and said, “Here is my receipt.”)

Not saying this justifies the cop’s choice of force. Not at all.

I will say that force (of some sort) was necessary. He defied a reasonable police order and was heading to the store with a weapon. That had to be stopped. Maybe a taser shot. Or, given the “slow-speed chase” in an electric wheelchair, a billy club jammed into the spokes of the wheelchair would have stopped the vehicle. And if the guy was truly unable to walk, that would have been the end of it.

I would NOT say that a physical overpowering of the guy by the cop (or two, or more) would have been prudent. Yes, they would have succeeded, but one or more could have been badly slashed/stabbed with the knife in the process.

I could almost understand ONE shot from the service revolver. I wouldn’t have endorsed that, but I could understand it. But 9 shots? No sir. And the cop’s last shot had a pause before it. To me, that one seemed calculated and deliberate, and not adrenaline-driven (if he chooses to take that argument to explain why he used so many shots.)

Grab him by the hair and yank him out of the damn chair.

Or just unplug his chair from the battery.

[Samm]

@Scratch

@Samm

Now why would you think that? Did you see something in the video that would justify this shooting?

Because I knew there’d be someone going with the “He didnt follow the cops orders”

And who other than you said that?

(That is not remotely what @Guvnah said.)

[Samm]

@Guvnah

Why did you choose to lie? Have you no shame?

I believe you just answered your own question.

[Samm]

@LeroyBrown

Something should have clicked in his head though when the “rent-a-cop” crossed 6 lanes of traffic and left Wal-Mart property to go after him.

I suspect that his head wasn’t “clicking” on all cylinders.

[Samm]

@Guvnah

@LeroyBrown

The sad thing is that if there weren’t so many cameras showing what happened, this would have been another “I feared for my life” justification of murder by a police officer, and it would have been covered up.

It’s why I believe the majority of people endorse body cams on cops.

I’d be willing to bet that body cams exonerate cops far more often than they condemn them.

[Samm]

@WuWei

They could have just stuck a broom handle through the wheels.

I don’t think cops carry brooms. A nightstick perhaps?

[Toll_Collector]

@Tom_Ch

There is a video. It’s disturbing to watch.

To me it looked at an execution. Yes he had a knife. But he was in an electric wheelchair moving away from the cop. Sloooow moving wheelchair. This cop needs to be charged.

Arizona cop who shot and killed Walmart customer in wheelchair fired from force | Fox News

Did you see the video? Holy crap!! Walmart is serious about their security.

From the camera angle inside the store, you can see an employee run away. Had the cop missed, that employee could have been hit.

[Toll_Collector]

@e7alr

That security camera footage just makes it worse for him. She is a good 20 feet away from the old man, near the officer’s line of fire. She is not on the line of travel of the wheel chair. It just makes the decision to shoot even more questionable.

Questionable? That old fool in that wheelchair wouldn’t have even scared my wife. A simple broom handle could flip that chair on its side.