One and only Kavenaugh Hearings Thread (part 1)

The delay is coming from the blooddrinkers. Its obstruction. Lies

Wake up and
#walkaway

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Why is that important?

Oh, there is no doubt about that at all…

But, almost 40 years later are you still identify yourself as a victim or a survivor?

Absolutely yes.

I was thinking about this some and here is how I think the repubs should play this.

Agree to allow Kav to testify first with the condition the full re-decated letter is given to all comittee members in advance. This should be short since details are lacking.

Then let Ford testify.

Then allow Kav an opportunity to testify again if he wants to in order to rebut any testimony Ford gives.

I still think putting Kav first is ridiculous but if you are going to do that he at least needs an opportunity to provide rebuttal testimony as well.

Yes a victim or
Yes a survivor

If a survivor what do you do differently than still identifying yourself as a victim?

The GOP is in a bad situation here.

I think that no matter what they do, they are going to look insensitive to her testimony… it is just a matter of the times really.

I think that instead of it all getting hashed out live on TV it would behoove them to actually have an investigation. They have time before the election and they have a lame duck session to get his confirmation through if the ultimate goal is to get him confirmed.

I personally don’t think that there is any more dirt on Kavenaugh other than this unprovable claim… but the GOP is seriously acting like there is another shoe to drop and they want to get this done a quickly as possible.

It is very strange.

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Does the catagorization really matter in the end?

How about this? When two disagree, bring them into a room together. Where they can look each other in the eye, speak their peace and allow others to listen, observe and discern.

Very, very much so.

I disagree.

The emotional trauma of a sexual assault victim and a sexual assault survivor is the exact same.

Just because the words sound a little nicer doesn’t mean that the emotions have changed.

An FBI investigation even if conducted will likely man little. If we go back to Thomas and Hill the FBI did investigate since they had jurisdiction and said hey found nothing. Did that matter? No. Even if the FBI came back and said their investigation was inconclusive (which is the likely outcome) what would that change? nothing. People would still want to hear her testimony like they did Hill. So all we do is push things a week or two down the road then try to schedule testimony and then oh it’s close to the elections no time for all that and then gee there is a new senate coming in let’s wait for them.

This is delay and stall. The GOP is in a bad spot and unfortunately I think the dems are going to win this fight and push this nomination until the next senate. Her demands to testify are unreasonable but if the GOP doesn’t accept them they look like they don’t care. I think Trump will wind up having to pull Kav due to this even if he didn’t do anything and we have round 2 in Jan with the new senate.

The emotional trauma is what it is.

How you deal with and identify yourself as a result is not.

Yep. It is all political.

Now the question becomes is it better for the country in their duty to advise and consent to the fullest or to worry about an election coming up?

Even on the slim chance that the Dems won a slim majority there is still a lame duck session to get him confirmed.

True.

And everyone deals with it differently.

Lame duck isn’t an option. As much as this is in the news he’s going to have to either be voted on or withdrawn in the next 2 weeks. He is not going to remain a nomineee until after the election. If he’s withdrawn with elections coming up new guy doesn’t come up until next year.

The only way I see lame duck coming into play is if Kav is withdrawn and dems win senate and then repubs try to push the new nomiee through in the lame duck session.

If dems win senate it will be 2 years of “garland revenge”.

It is ridiculous that supreme court nomiees have come to this. I miss the days of “I don’t agree with them but they are qualified so I’m voting for them” and 90-3 type votes.

The gist is nobody is going to prove anything this late in the…century… If its necessary to put on a show first, go ahead, but limit it.

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Selective memory is not credible.

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No. Who said it did? But it does call into question her ability to recall anything with certainty.

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With her wanting Kav to testify first I think her memory is going to suddenly improve and honestly I hope it does but Kav needs a chance to respond if that happens and they want to deny him that.