I am with you there.
I am troubled by this process.
I think that Ford has a credible if impossible to prove claim. It is a very sticky wicket.
I think that it will be much much worse for the GOP if they deny a cursory investigation, confirm him and then more stuff comes out.
Basically… I would like to see a Supreme Court appointment that wouldn’t have and asterix In the history books beside their name.
No, no one is going to “prove” anything.
But, people will form opinions
Memory in general is not credible.
I have stated before, I don’t think that it wil ever be proven one way or another what actually happened. I think that she was assaulted in High School but whether it was Kavenaugh or not is impossible to prove. She could very well be wrong about the identity.
I think that an investigation would help solidify the nomination instead of divide it… that’s all
And I don’t like him as a nominee but I also think that he is the best that the Democrats will get i this climate so they might as well take him.
Honestly we already have that with Thomas and he has done fine. Even with investigation and hearing many people still think he did it.
I would still like to hear from Ford and hear her side of the story but the fact she is making all these demands makes me concerned. If she simply has a truth to tell why does it need to be “no lawyers can ask me questions” and “Kavanaugh has to be interviewed before me not after”. Those just don’t seem like demands somebody who just wants to get the truth out would make.
Thomas had an investigation before the testimony.
So I think that should also happen in this case.
It didn’t change any perception and in the case of Thomas the investigation was one that was under the FBI juristiction because it happened on federal property. This one isn’t and I’m not sure what people think some FBI investigation is going to find.
The only evidence available after 36 years is people’s tesimony and recollection and that doesn’t need the FBI but can be done at the judiciary comitteee like has been requested.
Believe it or not… I am trying to help the GOP’s cause here.
I personally don’t like Kavenaugh as a choice but he is among the best that the Dems are going to get
There is no reason to stop an investigation especially when the info is flimsy and the claims are unprovable.
It would seem to me to be in the GOP’s favor to remove the doubt from the public sphere that they at least attempted to remove doubt from the allegations instead of simply gloss them over for a judge seat.
But when all you have is testimony why not just do it in front of the committee.
My concern with Ford is she is pushing for a investigation first or Kav to testify first so she can make sure that anything she says doesn’t contridict his version. She really seems like she wants to know what Kav remembers first before she says anything. That concerns me.
So this would be my possibile suggestions.
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Somehow in your mind it makes sense to interview the person accused of something first? How are the senators on the committee supposed to know what to ask him. Do they only go off the record of what’s been released. if that’s the case then SHE can only testify about what has been released as well. Level playing field and all. I think it was you who mentioned that earlier.
Exactly. Makes no sense for him to defend himself against charges she hasn’t explained yet.
She knows they will reject that which is why she requested it.
And in a series of tweets earlier Thursday, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee noted they had obtained statements, under penalty of felony, from two other people at the house party where the alleged assault occured, including Kavanaugh friend Mark Judge and another individual.
Committee members also wrote that they had reached out to a “fourth person allegedly at the party,” as well as “a schoolmate who claimed on social media this week to have info related to Dr. Ford’s allegations” – but had not heard back.
“[Ford’s] attorneys say there needs to be an investigation, which is exactly what the committee has been doing all week,” the GOP members wrote. “And we would love to hear from Dr. Ford. Democratic staff is invited to participate fully every step of the way.”
They ARE investigating with what information they have. If she has some “bombshell” shouldn’t the committee be investigating that as well BEFORE they interview Kavenaugh?
Do you see that they are getting statements from those involvede that if they lied they will be charged with felonies? Wonder if Dr. Ford has submitted a sworn statement under the same standards to the committee?
She refuses to testify under oath to the committee if Kavenaugh is in the room.
That I think is the only reasonable request of hers. I see no issues with that one as long as Kav can watch on CCTV, He doesn’t need to be in the room.
No. She is not a child and he has the right to face his accuser.
I have no issue with him sitting outside watching a live unfiltered version. I have no problem with her sitting outside watching a live unfiltered version when he testifies.
BUT she needs to testify first so committee members know what questions to ask him afterwords.
I still wonder why she hasn’t submitted a sworn (under felony perjery) statement to the committee. And why her original letter is being kept under wrap. The keeping her letter under wrap doesn’t pass the smell test.
Exactly. There is no reason for them both to be in the same room together but as is done with ANY legal proceeding, accuser first then defender responds. That is how it is done for a reason and how it should be done. Both can watch the others testimony outside the room.
I think he deserves to look his accuser in the eye. I think it’s easier to be misleading about a person if you don’t have to look in theirs.
This bothers me too. This started with this letter. Why can an un-redacted copy of the letter not at least be given to all members of the committee?
Hmmmmmm case of mistaken identity?
Ed Whelan, a former clerk to the late justice Antonin Scalia and president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, pointed to floor plans, online photographs and other information to suggest a location for the house party in suburban Maryland that Ford described. He also named and posted photographs of the classmate he suggested could be responsible.
Ford dismissed Whelan’s theory in a statement late Thursday: “I knew them both, and socialized with” the other classmate, Ford said, adding that she had once visited him in the hospital. “There is zero chance that I would confuse them.”
Here is a link to gateway pundit (I absolutely HATE that site as it slows my computer to the pace of slime moving on a slug) But it does have compelling evidence.
So now she is saying she socialized with Kavanaugh and this look a like???
Remember she went to an all girls school so she wouldn’t see either of the boys on a daily basis in the halls and in class.
What’s with the attack, Joanne? I’m expressing an opinion. I do have that right.
